Why Calvinism preaches a fraudulent gospel to some of the lost.

And verse one of that chapter shows that is not talking about all individuals, but rather, all types of people.

 

After giving it some thought, your entire rant is based on a misunderstanding of the gospel. In essence, you believe faith merits salvation. But scripture teaches that salvation produces faith. That is, God must save you before you can have faith and this is consistent with limited atonement.

 

That doesn't align with the rest of Scripture. Sorry you are simply incorrect.

 

I see that the Gospel today is preached differently from the way Peter, Paul and the Lord Jesus preached it.

Paul, for example, never preached the good news ( what's contained in the epistles ) and the meat of the Gospel to the masses.
He preached exactly as Acts of the Apostles 17:22-30 depicts...
That we as men are sinners, and that He has appointed a day that He will judge mankind by His Son, who rose again and that we as men should repent in the face of this.

Simple facts with no embellishment and no advertisement of any of the rest of what God has reserved for those that He has saved...
What is contained in the epistles.

God's election, predestination, calling, justification, sanctification and many other precious truths.

 

I see nowhere in all of the Bible that it is described that way.
But I do see how, in a few places and isolated from much of the rest of what the Lord has to say, that it could work that way.

As in other threads where this was discussed, Mark:

In what I have come to understand as your view, the gift is actively received by the act of accepting it.
Therefore, God is offering it with the express intent of attaching a condition to it in order for us as men to get it from Him.
He then bases His salvation of an individual on what the individual does ( reaches out and accepts it ) and possesses ( the wisdom, strength, or will to accept it ), thereby making Him a respecter of persons... and not on His own totally-uninfluenced-by-the-decisions-of-men choice to grant mercy and compassion on someone strictly because of His kindness.

Of course you know where I stand and I do not view salvation as a reward, which is how I see you describing it;
I view it as a gift that is given with no strings attached and is passively received because of God giving it to one, and withholding it from another based on His mercy and grace alone, and on nothing that we do, say, or desire.

Please see Romans 9:6-24.

That said:
Not to reply for him ( which I cannot ), but, yes, I would say ( if asked ) that if the term "gift" as seen in Romans 6:23, for example, is defined in the "active" way, then the person is responsible for giving it to himself or herself...
Primarily because they performed an act that, in reality, functions as merit to gain it... instead of them having it dropped into their laps, totally unexpected and fully without merit.

Election as described in Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, Ephesians 1:3-6, Ephesians 2:8-10, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14, Psalms 65:4, John 6:37-47, John 6:64-65, John 17:2 and many other places, is the only thing that I see that completely bypasses merit and preserves Romans 11:5-6, Romans 4:4 and Ephesians 2:9...
and truly defines salvation and eternal life as gifts.


May God, in His grace, bless you with many of them.

 

I never said he bases His salvation based on what an individual does. That’s a spin on what He does but not reality.

again do we ever give credit for the giving to the receiver of the gift just because the receiver of the gift accepts it? It’s not done and it’s not logical. The basis is His grace. Regardless if the needed response of man by His design the basis begins and ends there. Man’s response has nothing to do with His basis.

 

Another blame God for mans sin post.

 

All men = Jews, and gentiles.

 

show me where in the New Testament you see the disciples preaching a free gift of salvation. You do not find that. What you see is them preaching repentance. And following God. That is the gospel that salvation is available to those who believe. Those who believe are the elect. Therefore, it is not a fraudulent gospel. It is fact to say that those who believe will be saved. Because those who believe are elected.

 

What we have is a straw man misrepresentation of the gospel being attacked by someone who does not understand the true gospel. To preach the gospel means to "announce it" to all. Those who are born again will respond through baptism and repentance. It would be dishonest to "offer" salvation which makes the responder the savior of their own selves.

 

In his High Priestly Prayer, Jesus did not pray for the salvation of all. He told the Father “I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours.” John 17:9 (ESV). Why would Jesus die for any he was unwilling to pray for?

 

I do understand your point. But I want to ask a question. Does the person receiving the gift recognize it as a gift?

Suppose you have a drug addict and their father wants to give them the free gift of 90 days of treatment at rehab facility. Does the addict think it’s a gift? Most of the time they don’t see it as a gift.

The same with sinners. They don’t see the salvation found in the gospel as a free gift. It comes with strings attached. They must give up their addictions to sin. Their lives must change and they don’t think their lives need to change, just like the drug addict blinded by their addiction.

If the father can change the addict’s mindset, to help them understand the value of the treatment, then they will see the offer as a gift.

God must change us so that we are capable of understanding the gift that has been offered and to respond with faith in Christ.

That is unmerited favor. That is grace.

peace to you

 

Please answer my question first.

 

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Salvation is not the gift.

 

“Although Jesus had performed so many miraculous signs before them, they still refused to believe in him, so that the word of Isaiah the prophet would be fulfilled. He said, “Lord, who has believed our message, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”For this reason they could not believe, because again Isaiah said, “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, so that they would not see with their eyes and understand with their heart, and turn to me, and I would heal them.”” (John 12:37–40)

Why would God blind them so they would perish, if as you think, Christ died for them?

 

“How much more severe a punishment do you suppose he deserves, who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded the blood of the covenant that sanctified him to be a common thing, [meant for all] and has insulted the Spirit of grace?” Hebrews 10:29 (MEV)