I seriously doubt that you took a look at Scriptures and found Reformed Theology to be wrong, or as you say, biblically incorrect. You would be the only soul on the face of the earth to have ever done so. So you didn't prove it by Scripture, you merely formed an opinion that it is wrong. No one has proven Reformed Theology as being wrong by a Biblical study. It's only opinion.
In essence this is what you are saying, that via Scripture you have used it as a proof to show it to be wrong, i.e. proven it thus.
Perhaps your understanding of Reformed Theology was lacking while you were attempting to understand it and disprove it? I haven't found one thing wrong concerning Calvinism in light of Scripture, but instead and in fact have found my previous thoughts and understanding of passages used to support it as lacking in a thorough understanding of said passages.
Why is there a Resurgence of Reformed Theology?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by preacher4truth, Dec 16, 2010.
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Signs of the last days, false teaching has arisen
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Dumbed-down shallow Theology is being rejected
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Rejection of Arminian and/or Pelagian/Semi-pelagianism and the blurring of both
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An honest look back on ones own salvation experience leads them this way
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It Exalts the Sovereignty and Grace of God
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Dissatisfaction with the Theology I/we grew up with
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John Piper
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Distribution of Puritan Writings on the rise have contributed to this
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The "free will of man" teaching diminishes Gods Sovereignty
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He is literally my favorite living preacher. I intend to go and see him when he comes to South Carolina in a few months.
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No one has proven Reformed Theology as being wrong by a Biblical study. It's only opinion.
And Allen could say the same thing back to you. "No one has proven it to be right either. It's only opinion." Personally, I've read the "Biblical" arguments for reformed theology and I'm not fully convinced. At best I'm a four pointer. The Biblical arguments presented so far for limited atonement don't prove it in my opinion.Ok, now you are free to go ahead with the typical reformed response and tell me, "You just don't get it because you don't understand reformed theology," or the even more mature one and call me a "universalist." -
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Jarthur001 said: ↑Luke2427 said: ↑I disagree.
Hansen looks at Calvinism, and it is indeed rising. In the "Young, Restless and Reformed"/ by Hansen he does seem to prove this. But, you have to consider other things. One, he took most of his data from schools, and those leaving schools.
Church members tell another story.
But..beyond this is...TULIP is just part of Reformed Theology. The resurgence is in TULIP and other areas of Reformed theology have not grown that much at all.
I addressed a little bit of this a few months ago....
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I pastor in a town where Reformed thinking is in the early stages of resurgence.
I don't think the fact the the world's largest seminary has returned to its reformed roots should be lightly discounted.
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterLuke2427 said: ↑I love Paisely!!
He is literally my favorite living preacher. I intend to go and see him when he comes to South Carolina in a few months.
Now he is to the right of me on versions and teetotalism- but he is a great, great man of God.Click to expand... -
Thinkingstuff Active MemberEarth said: ↑Hurry along....he's quite old. Have you ever spoken to him?Click to expand...
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Luke2427 said: ↑Jarthur001 said: ↑I understand. But the fact that youth are clinging to it by the thousands does mean it is re-surging.
I pastor in a town where Reformed thinking is in the early stages of resurgence.
I don't think the fact the the world's largest seminary has returned to its reformed roots should be lightly discounted.Click to expand...
As more of these younger pastors take churches, we should see that number change in church members. I pray it does. Then we will once again see the gospel grow and change this nation.
If people are unhappy with the church as they see it today, this must be laid at the feet of Arminianism. It is Arminianism that took us down this path, of seeker churches, hyper-fundies and liberalism and waterdown theology. We had stronger churches in the 1600, 1700 and 1800s when Reformed theology was held higher then it has been in the last 100 years.Click to expand... -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supportersag38 said: ↑No one has proven Reformed Theology as being wrong by a Biblical study. It's only opinion.
And Allen could say the same thing back to you. "No one has proven it to be right either. It's only opinion." Personally, I've read the "Biblical" arguments for reformed theology and I'm not fully convinced. At best I'm a four pointer. The Biblical arguments presented so far for limited atonement don't prove it in my opinion.Ok, now you are free to go ahead with the typical reformed response and tell me, "You just don't get it because you don't understand reformed theology," or the even more mature one and call me a "universalist."Click to expand... -
sag38 said: ↑No one has proven Reformed Theology as being wrong by a Biblical study. It's only opinion.
And Allen could say the same thing back to you. "No one has proven it to be right either. It's only opinion." Personally, I've read the "Biblical" arguments for reformed theology and I'm not fully convinced. At best I'm a four pointer. The Biblical arguments presented so far for limited atonement don't prove it in my opinion.Ok, now you are free to go ahead with the typical reformed response and tell me, "You just don't get it because you don't understand reformed theology," or the even more mature one and call me a "universalist."Click to expand...
Thanks a lot Dr. Obvious!!!!!
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Earth said: ↑Hurry along....he's quite old. Have you ever spoken to him?Click to expand...
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Jarthur001 said: ↑Luke2427 said: ↑I agree...and i don't take that lightly. I do hope the younger pastors will hold on to what they have been schooled in.
As more of these younger pastors take churches, we should see that number change in church members. I pray it does. Then we will once again see the gospel grow and change this nation.
If people are unhappy with the church as they see it today, this must be laid at the feet of Arminianism. It is Arminianism that took us down this path, of seeker churches, hyper-fundies and liberalism and waterdown theology. We had stronger churches in the 1600, 1700 and 1800s when Reformed theology was held higher then it has been in the last 100 years.Click to expand...Click to expand... -
Thinkingstuff Active MemberEarth said: ↑Im OK with that. Its difficult to understand & took me years of wrestling with it. I dont have a pat answer for you except to search it out. I just finished reading the book "The Doctrines Of Grace" by James Boice & Philip Ryken...they put the entire doctrines of Grace in a new prospective for me so I could better understand it. Now Im a Reformed guy for over 24 years & its taking me this long to put all the pieces together & I drove Pastors wild in fighting Limited Atonement so Ive been there. And Im glad I kept at it.Click to expand...
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Some folks think they've got it all wrapped up in a neat little theological box with all the answers given in a pretty little flower acronym. Personally, I'm perfectly comfortable living in the contradiction of the truth being somewhere in the middle of the two arguments with a little lean to one side.
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Luke2427 said: ↑I love Paisely!!
He is literally my favorite living preacher. I intend to go and see him when he comes to South Carolina in a few months.
Now he is to the right of me on versions and teetotalism- but he is a great, great man of God.Click to expand... -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterThinkingstuff said: ↑I'm wondering. Do you remember the 21st night of september?Click to expand...
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