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Wife is voting for Trump

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Nov 13, 2023.

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    It has gotta be a miracle, my wife said she is voting for Donald Trump… I still can’t believe it!

    Pam was always a never Trumper… hates the guy but really despises Biden far more… took several years, but there ya have it. Thanks Joe :Biggrin
     
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    Looks like a duplicate thread, unless you are so happy you just had to say it twice!!!

    :)

    Peace to you
     
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    Yes it is so can a moderator please eliminate one of them.

    it is an issue of the Will. Her father once worked for Fred Trump so the family is aware of the Trump story. I have also worked in the NYC construction trade and on Trump projects so I’m not a big fan but The Donald is a far better choice than the stinker we have now, one that we both think can make a difference for this country.
     
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    God, giving this country both Trump and Biden as leaders, shows us that He has given the United States over to its damnation and complete demise.

    That otherwise Godward Christians support such a vile person as Donald Trump (or his brother Joe Biden) serves to show the delusion that Satan's false prophet it bringing even to the body of Christ.

    May God have mercy on all who vote for wicked kings.
     
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    My allegiance and praise is for Christ my Lord and Savior… I long for his return. However in this temporal world we have flawed humans in leadership positions. Trump is at least proven in situations like averting wars. And does represent a responsible America. He has promised to stop most of the Biden policies which are a disaster. So if we have a voice of dissatisfaction for the present situation it’s there for us in the electoral process.
     
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    When has any country, other than Israel during the reign of King David, not been under damnation?

    peace to you
     
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    Then go to the primary and vote for a better Republican than a proven narcissist. There are others who are better candidates.

    What I see, however, is God providing wicked leaders to the US and Christians just accept it without first repenting and asking for a Godly leader.

    When we just accept Trump, we show we, as a church, have not repented and asked for a Godly ruler.
     
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    Trump has publicly stated Jesus Christ is his savior and Lord.

    Why are you going on a public forum and gossiping about a brother in Christ?

    Why are you slandering a brother in Christ in public?

    If you have something against your brother in Christ, you should go to him privately and explain his error, all the while praying God will restore him.

    Why are slandering those who support DT, claiming they haven’t “repented” and asked for Godly leaders.

    Perhaps they prayerfully asked God for a godly leader and God gave them a professing Christian that has publicly stated Jesus is his Savior and Lord.

    peace to you
     
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    Of course he has. Machiavelli tells him to claim the faith of his constituents. The Bible says we will know a Christian by their fruit. Here is the fruit of the Spirit:

    (Galatians 5:22-23)
    But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

    Look at Donald Trump and note that he displays none of the fruit of a Christian. The discernment of the Holy Spirit tells you this, so why then would you go against what the Holy Spirit is saying and continue to support someone who does not represent Christ in any fashion?

    God is providing the US with a self-centered narcissist or a bumbling socialist. And the church refuses to repent, confess it's unholy reliance on politics, and cry out to God for a Godward leader.

    Our land is doomed because of the failure of the church to repent. Instead, the church listens to the false prophet of the antichrist.

    These are dark times and greater darkness is yet to come upon this land.
     
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    First, you have misquoted scripture which states false prophets are known by their fruit, not Christians. So, since your very first statement is based on falsehood, it really undermines everything else you say.

    Jesus stated, however, the world will know His disciples by the love they have toward one another.

    It is not demonstrating love for a brother in Christ by gossiping and slandering a professing Christian in a public forum.

    Unless you are claiming to have access to DT on a daily basis, you have absolutely no clue as to what “fruit of the Spirit” he displays. The only thing you have is biased reports from people who hate him and you repeat it as if it’s true.

    So, to summarize, you have embraced the view of the Godless radicals that hate DT and slander him and his supporters… and join in with the godless radicals to slander of DT and his supporters ….

    …. and then suppose Christians should listen to you lecture them about how terrible DT is AND how terrible they are for supporting him.

    Good luck with that

    peace to you
     
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    I quoted scripture exactly. I showed that Donald Trump displays no fruit.
    Your first claim against me is false. I quoted Galatians 5:22-23 exactly as it is stated.
    "But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!"

    There is no gossip in saying that Donald Trump displays no fruit. This is observed whenever he speaks and interacts with the public.
    Do not falsely accuse me of gossip when the facts are before you. Be honest and admit that you support Donald Trump despite the evidence of no fruit.

    There is no need to be hanging around Donald Trump like a dog looking for scraps from the rich man's plate in order to state, factually, that Donald Trump shows no fruit.

    Donald Trump mocks and belittles everyone who stands against him, including Christians. Yet, with all that, some Christians gleefully follow him as though he were their pied piper.

    Your accusation against me is not from God.
     
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    You stated the bible says a “Christian is known by their fruit”. That is not what the Galatians passage says. It lists the fruit of the Spirit, it does not say a Christian is known by their fruit, as you claimed. Christ said false prophets are known by their fruit. You are mixing your fruit and making falsehood salad.

    You called a professing Christian anti-Christ. That is slander. Scripture is very clear that if you have something against a brother in Christ that you go to him in private. You are not following scripture.

    You do not know DT. You don’t like the way he talks. You don’t like his politics. So you wrap yourself up in scripture to claim he is antiChrist and you slander him and those who support him.

    BTW, I support Pence.

    peace to you
     
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    T, this is a fallen world and the USA is a leader in vile corruption. I will tell you that these GOP candidates will slowly begin dropping out … as did Tim Scott today (who I like by the way). De Santis concerns me as does the gal from South Carolina and forget Chris Christy from NJ…. So who else is there? If you can find someone who is stellar
    Please advise.
     
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    Pence who dropped out of the race, now what?
     
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    I don’t know. I was committed to voting for Pence in the primaries. I think he would have been a good, boring, president.

    I Don’t really like DeSantis. He changed the Florida law that required state officials that run for federal office to resign in order to do so. I think it’s a good law. He did too, until it affected himself. That sets a precedence, imo, for compromise that I find unappealing.

    Nikki Haily is solid on foreign policy. I see her more as Sec or State, though I guess she’s my pick now since Pence dropped out.

    I will vote repub nominee in general election, and it looks like DT has an unstoppable at this point.

    peace to you
     
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    You show us all that God has given the US over to the devil and his minions.
    What I note is that the church in the United States has ceased to pray, confessing first its sins and dependency on God and second it cry for Godly leaders in government.

    We now simply look to pick the least vile of candidates offered by Babylon.

    Speaking for only myself, I want none of what Babylon is offering. I pray for the peace of the city in which I live as an exile away from my King's throne.
     
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    It demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness to proclaim the entire church in the US as essentially apostate (doesn’t pray, doesn't repent, doesn’t seek forgiveness from God)…..

    And then in the very next breath claim you are only speaking for yourself.

    Let’s see, you used the phrase “Machiavelli” earlier. Been a while, but I think that refers to someone pretending to be something they aren’t…. Hummmmm

    ….You then slander a professing Christian and all those that support this professing Christian.. hummmm…..

    …now… who is the one that slanders professing Christians… ??? hummmm… why it’s Satan that slanders professing Christians… Satan and those deceived by Satan to do his will to slander professing Christians…. Hummmm

    peace to you
     
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    Politics in general is corrupt soo I’m not surprised when someone refuses to vote. But this has been happening for a very long time now. Cicero the Roman Senator commented that “politicians are not born, they are excreted.”
     
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    Let it go canadyjd… Trump is a big boy, he is from NYC. The guy I think is Hilarious is Chris Christy for so many reasons… at present he is the biggest rock thrower in the gop, a real rat himself but he keeps slandering Trump. That’s exactly what the good people want, a fat back stabbing hypocrite who threw his staff under the bus so he wouldn’t have to take the heat for Bridge Gate… sleazy as they come. Maybe Biden needs a new running mate. :Sick
     
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