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Wisconsin government union debacle spreads...

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by rbell, Feb 18, 2011.

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  1. carpro

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    This uprising of state and local governments against the economic rape of taxpayers by unions can be laid squarely at the feet of one Barrack Obama.

    He has been so transparent at advancing the cause of union labor in so many ways... including payoffs, exemption from laws everypone else has to conform to and using government funds to buy corporations purely to keep one of the worst union abuser's members from losing their jobs ... that people are just flat fed up.

    Now he's using the government and democrat party resources to support mob rule and incite violence.

    What's next?

    Anyone not a member of a union has to pay a tax surcharge to the IRS every year?

    This moron needs to be voted out of office, or impeached, whichever comes first.
     
  2. SpiritualMadMan

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    The legislation being disputed does NOT touch or otherwise affect people with current contracts. It begings to affect people as new contract are negotiated and ratified.
     
  3. mandym

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    Awww man, here you come throwing truth into the mix. Now people will have to deal with the real issue, consider some actual facts, then run around them as if they do not exist. You really know how to throw a wrench in the clock works.



    :laugh: I'm just teasing yall
     
  4. Robert Snow

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    Reagan was a fool! People like you worship at the feet of corporate America and don't give a flip about the workers who made it great! I've come to expect this from the right-wingnuts here at the BB.
     
  5. carpro

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    Simply because he enforced the law.

    Figures.
     
  6. Arbo

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    I suppose you think Carter was a genius.
     
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    Socialist drivel.
     
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    I guess Robert was happy with Jimmy Carter and the hole he was leading us into. Thanks but no thanks. And no thanks to the new union mentality that is willing to destroy the very hand that feeds them.
     
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    You sound more and more like my mother-in-law with every post... :laugh:

    She doesn't get it either. Blames Republicans for the issues with labor unions, loves Demoncrat socialists, but hates tax increases... Thinks government is too big, too inclusive, too encroaching, but won't vote for a candidate that promises to cut back because "government is supposed to give us stuff..." In other words, :wavey: Well, I'm not supposed to call people that name here on the board.
     
  10. glfredrick

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    http://www.cpusa.org/

    http://www.cpusa.org/socialism-usa-gus-hall/


    I might add that it is not just capitalists who hold that human beings are inherently selfish and evil... God said so first!

    There are some other REAL GEMS on the page linked above...

    Tell that to the people of the former USSR... They had to wait in line in hopes of being able to purchase toilet paper.

    Kids who dream this sort of stuff mess up their sheets in the night... :laugh:

    Yup, just like in Cuba, Russia, China, North Viet Nam, North Korea, Cambodia, Laos, etc...

    I'm sure that they saw this reduction in all those places mentioned above...

    It caused most people to halt production in the places where it has been fully implemented because there was no incentive to work. "Someone else" would take care of the needs of the individual, but there were no "someone else's" left to do all the work. If everyone is not equal, then it is not truly "socialism" is it? But, of course, some are "more equal" than others -- like Party Officials, for instance.

    Wait, what? Oh, I get it... The government runs all the farms, and they are the quintessential definition of agribusiness monopoly, but the family farmer will still be free to do what he wants... See my comment about the dreams of youth above. :laugh:

    As defined by whom? Pravda?

    They've done REAL WELL in all the socialist nations... Gee, I want to send my kids to North Korea! Sure beats dieting!

    In other words, "never mind the man behind the curtain..." WE can do this RIGHT in the USA! Yeah... I bet. :wavey:

    Just a minute... Let me check in with Joseph Stalin...

    And here is where it starts looking like Wisconsin:

     
  11. Robert Snow

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    Nope, didn't like him either.
     
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    > It begings to affect people as new contract are negotiated and ratified.

    If so then it is less objectionable by a tad.
     
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    What is ridiculous is Walker is giving tax breaks for the super wealthy and expecting teachers, firemen, and police officers to pay for them. His owners, the Koch brothers, must be proud. Typical right wing rhetoric here from the usual suspects.
     
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    So help me out here. How is it that a tax break can be paid for by anyone? This appears to assume that people keeping their own money is a cost. Doesn't add up. Correct me if I misunderstood your post.
     
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    Taxes formerly paid by one group (the corporations, Koch bros. and Walmart for example) leave a deficit that must be made up. In this case, by taking more from the working class. There is no free lunch.
     
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    Spending creates deficit. If you have zero coming in but you spend nothing then no deficit occurs. If you spend less than what you take in no deficit occurs. If your intake decreases so must your spending. Tax breaks can never create deficits, only spending. If taxes or Government revenue reduces then so must spending. If you do not reduce spending then and only then will deficits occur.

    Taxes always inhibit the economy. That is why we need to be careful what we tax. And government revenue is always higher when the economy is moving better.
     
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    Supply-Siders believe that lowering taxes will spur the economy because when *most* companies have more money to invest in jobs and employees, they do so.

    obamanomics believes that to spur the economy we must spend more money than we have.

    We have seen this tried at least twice so far in this debacle regime.

    It hasn't worked...

    The money was frittered away, spent and lost on the few self absorbed companies that had no intention of putting back into the economy.

    If spending could get me out of debt... Trust me, there are a lot of goodies that I have enough credit worthiness to buy... But, I am not as stupid as obama's economic "experts"!

    x - being an unknown quantity and spurt being a drip under pressure! :D
     
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    In Demo-speak it's called 'investing'.:smilewinkgrin:
     
  19. Arbo

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    What is your source for this misinformation? You don't know what you're talking about.
     
  20. Robert Snow

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    He obviously knows much more than you do!
     
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