Not at my church ever again, I have heard him speak twice in person and literally watched him tear apart our congregation in addition to questioning everyone's salvation. He is a clown act and has not one fruit of the Holy Spirit in him.
I am not a fundy fan, but this pastor has Paul Washer pegged.......... the very essence of evil.
http://video.search.yahoo.com/play;...3p7&pstcat=lifestyle&age=0&fr=att-portal&tt=b
Would Paul Washer Be Welcome to Speak at Your Local Church
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by saturneptune, Jan 13, 2014.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Uh no not ever.
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Steve Anderson (banned member of BB) in the video said he is a false teacher because he does not preach out of the KJV. - ...
So - SAT with due respect - I will have to look into this more. I am sorry what happen at your church -
Video is basically snippets of PW (taken out of context) with snippets of the Fundy pastor rambling.
Fundy Pastor just jealous and trying to maintain control of his congregation IMO. -
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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=EACA6B5676E80EC7FD14EACA6B5676E80EC7FD14 -
God's message that comes from a life filled with the fruit of the Spirit.
As James states:
13Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom.According to the testimony of the OP, it would seem the visiting pastor should have been stopped and set down to learn by those more wise.
14But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. 15This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. 16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.
17But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. 18And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
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I know you've expressed your dislike of PW several times on here, obviously I don't know what he said while he was there and don't know the folks at your church. I see PW as someone who is passionate about the church in America and believers being all that God has called them to be.
Since we are in to snippets, lets take a couple from PW's popular 10 Indictments sermon and tell me on which points you disagree with him.
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I would love to have Paul Washer at my church!
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Yet some here will tell you not to worry, those good folks are saved, they are just carnal Christians, they are ok, no worries. I'm sure some of them have been "saved" for 50 years or more, the fact they never darken the doors shouldn't be questioned.
Fellowship Is A Sign of True Conversion
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. - Hebrews 10:25
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. - Colossians 3:16
And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. -Acts 2:42
God is Sovereign But Man Is Responsible
Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! - 2 Corinthians 13:5
Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. - 2 Peter 1:10-11 -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
There are any number of reasons why some on rolls of churches no longer attend. Some have moved away, some are going to another church locally etc. There is no reason to "assume" they are lost. Good grief
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One day, he sat down in his usual back pew, looking like he was either going to puke or pass out, when suddenly he sat bolt upright, stared at the pastor, who had just started speaking on Romans 7. Something in what the pastor said resonated with him, and he paid rapt attention the rest of the service, and when it was over, he steered a beeline for the pastor. He said, "I've never heard that explained that way before!" He asked several questions, made an appointment with the pastor for the following day, and spent nearly four hours talking, telling his story, and in the end, asking how he could know Christ.
From that day forward, he was a changed man. He got himself cleaned up, sold his bike, stopped smoking dope and dealing it to others (his own admission, apparently never having been caught selling), put together a resume, and got a job (he had a degree in education, but never felt motivated to use it) at a local high school as a history teacher and automotive shop instructor. He started serving at a soup kitchen (one he'd personally eaten at often in his drunken stupor days) and taking the gospel to his former biker buddies. But he couldn't give up drinking. He went through several treatment outpatient programs, finally in the summer, when school was out, checking into an inpatient program. He fell off the wagon six months later. He came to the pastor, crying out for help, God's mercy, God's removal of his sin -- and kept drinking. He even started dating a young lady at the church, married her, had two kids -- and kept drinking. He hated himself every time he gave into the urge, but not falling into the temptation was not an option.
So, I ask you, was he "carnal" or would you put another label on him?
Paul Washer would not be invited to speak at my church. -
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This is the same thing that I've said about homosexuals. There are strongholds in people's lives and a lot of times they are so IN that they have to convince themselves sometimes that what they are doing is okay because it's how they are coping.
They know it's wrong but when you got folks telling you all the time that you're going to hell, they just say fine and go where folks aren't gonna condemn them to hell.
Strongholds are real. And just because someone continues in a particular sin after being saved doesn't mean they were never saved. -
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If all you've ever heard is his sermons where he pleads for sinners to repent, then yes, he's going to seem that way.
But the truth is, he's very funny, loves music, including Shai Linne and LeCrae, and will be your friend for life if you talk about bow hunting with him. -
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