That simply isn't true. Of course, you have no use for the truth. I'm living proof that one can be a Christian, and a theologically conservative one at that, and be a political liberal.
Would you marry your political opposite?
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by FR7 Baptist, Jan 18, 2011.
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If they were, they wouldn't be liberals. Instead they would shun the liberal worldview rather than embrace it.
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Do you think I'm going to hell because I'm politically liberal? -
Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
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Not necessarily, but you damage your testimony so much that you may cause others to falsely accept Christ while fully intending to disobey His teachings by politically supporting those who support sinful agendas.
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Sure. Only a small segment of the Christian world is obsessed with politics. If a couple is not obsessed with politics they can have different opinions and thrive as a couple whose focus is to 'with one mind and one mouth glorify God.' If politics is not big deal why could a marriage not survive?
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
Why would politics be less important ? If your goal is to glorify God, that is.
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As Christians we live our lives as pilgrims in this world. I am grateful for a godly wife of some 33 years. Politics is not a part of our lives any more than it is a part of our local church.
We don't have to agree about something that is so unimportant. It is no more apart of our Christian lives than sports or entertainment news. I don't focus on glorifying God by the football team I support either.
Now, I could not have married someone who did not use the word of God as their standard of living. Infanticide is sin. That is biblical. H0m0sexuality is sin. That is biblical.
Health care is not a Bible issue. Tax rates are not a Bible issue. Individual representation in government is not a Bible issue. Government relief programmes are not Bible issues. Immigration is not a Bible issue. Government civil unions are not a Bible issue.
We can't expect a government made up mostly of lost people to cater Bible issues.
Because of that these things just are not a big deal and should not divide believers, especially a husband and wife. I find it tragic that politics divides the body of Christ like in does in some segments of the church. -
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Having a spouse with opposing political views would add interest to the marriage. Think of the interesting discussions you would have with the other person. It would force a person to examine their views and come to a more rational way of explaining what they believe. Of course if you are insecure within yourself or feel you must dominate your partner, you probably would not think of marrying someone who does not agree with you.
Perhaps the most extreme couple I know of in this regard is James Carville and Mary Matalin. They must have some very interesting discussions.
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
To answer the OP: Would I marry someone who is my political opposite?
Sure...I did.
Who cares about politics? If anyone around here thinks politics trumps personality you're living in a dangerous and small world.
Mrs PJ and I have wonderful discussions about this stuff from time to time but it doesn't matter. We usually end up talking about...you know more important stuff than politics.
There are far more important things to defining a person than their political positions. The dangerous thing I'm seeing here (and in too many people in our churches) is that they are also equating political positions with sanctification. That is idiocy and is not the way of Jesus. -
I have heard this spoken so often that I grow rather weary in hearing it. Basically, I believe all law is based upon morality. Every law has a basis in someone's moral code. We do not murder, because it is morally wrong. Environmental laws are based upon a moral conviction. Business regulation is "designed" to keep us the from being corrupt. Even the fight for and against abortion is made on moral grounds (the abortionists calling upon the woman's right to choose and the pro-lifers on the babies intrinsic humanness and the prohibition against murder). Our founders said there were ineliable rights... again based upon moral presuppositions.
Law cannot make us moral, but law is intrinsically based upon a moral code. If you remove morality, then you have no rational basis for law.
I agree that the greatest need for our government is the Gospel, the righteousness of Christ imputed upon people. This will change them and conform them to Christ's image... truly our greatest need. However, if we were to no longer legislate morality, then prohibition against murder would be the first to be wiped off the law books.
To that degree, I believe God's moral code is the best of all moral codes in existence. That is, afterall, a part of calling ourselves Christians. -
This is an interesting discussion and one that I have thought about for many years. While I married someone who agrees with me on politics, we have radically changed our views in our 12 1/2 years of marriage.
First, I think the issue of "liberal" and "conservative" should be jettisoned. The first thing I looked for in a wife was a Biblical Worldview, someone with solid theology. Could we disagree on political issues? Yes! However, we could not disagree on major Biblical Issues.
Let me take this away from the modern hot topics and draw an illustration from the past. If I lived in the Revolutionary War period, could I see a Patriot marrying a Tory? Yes!
The issues I would have difficulty in today's politics are the issues where the Bible clearly outlines as being morally reprehensible or theologically in error. Could I marry a person who supports abortion or homosexual marriages? No! Yet, could I marry someone who is for amnesty of illegals or supports Arizona's immigration law? Yes. Could I marry someone who did not believe in a Republican form of Government or held to the idea that we should limit guns. Yes! Could I marry someone who has no problem with the pre-marital sex messages or who believed truth was relative? No!
Thus, could I marry my political opposite? Yes! Could I marry my religious opposite? No! Granted, there are many places in our politics today where I believe both the Republicans and Democrats are morally reprehensible. Thus, if I based my views on politics alone, I could not marry either a Republican nor Democrat. I also do not see how any Christian can support things like abortion, homosexuality, or supporting organizations who say it is okay to have premarital sex if you only use a condom. -
Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
I could not marry either a Republican nor Democrat.
Same here. I do not ask Phyllis how she votes. I never bring it up. I trust her, as an intelligent, successful, conservative, business woman, that she would vote her own best interests.
I'd like to see a biblical example of people compromising their views for love, that ends well. -
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Nescient, eh ? Yer a hoot.
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