Yahweh and Jesus Christ

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"Draw near to Me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there. And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit” (Isaiah 48, verse 16)

The Speaker is “Yahweh”, and He is said to be sent by another Person, Who is, “Yahweh Elohim”.

The Speaker in this verse, as the passage will show, is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ.

The words in this verse are like those found in verse 3, “I have declared the former things from the beginning”, and verse 5, “I have even from the beginning declared it to you”. In verse 12 and 13 the Speaker says, “Listen to Me, O Jacob and Israel, My called; I am He, I am the First, I also am the Last. My hand has also laid the foundation of the earth”. Language that can hardly be use by Isaiah, or any other human being! Then, in verse 15 we read, “I, even I have spoken, yes, and I have called him”. In the very next verse, we read, “Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go”. As the Speaker of verse 16 here continues, it is clear that He is Yahweh, Who is Speaking, and not the Prophet Isaiah. This same Speaker also says, “Listen, O coastlands, to Me, And take heed, you peoples from afar! The Lord has called Me from the womb” (49:1). In verse 5 He is called “His Servant”, which clearly can only refer to Jesus Christ. None of these things could have been said by the Prophet Isaiah.

 

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Thanks for the clarification!

 

A well meaning interpertation. The LORD/Yahweh is only once in the text per John 1:18. The other two are just angels/messengers. As I understand John 1:18.

 

There is only one Yahweh, with 3 persons claiming to be Him...

 

THE Angel of the Lord in the OT ois always God appearing in that form!

 

huh? :Unsure

 

but ONLY Jesus Christ, never the Father!

 

He will speak and say " I did this", but will also say that Yahweh did, so talking about Himself and another who is also God!

 

Yes, as he was the One that spoke to Adam and Eve and to Moses in the Bush!

 

So to you, "cannot not" means the same as simply "cannot."

 

because there are Two Persons Who are both Yahweh!

 

you are confused! Confused

 

Trying to comprehend the trinity can drive us nuts!

 

speak for yourself, I am quite fine! :D Though reading some of the exchanges here is driving me something! :Laugh

 

To a tums or excedrin?

 

weeping! :Geek

 

Sure but that has nothing to do with what i wrote. People can still be wrong about what the Trinity is.

 

Many are, see 1.6 Billion Muslims for example.

 

Confused about what? You are one who thought I denied that God was a Trinity of Persons. When I had made an arguement that God had to be a Trinity of Persons. That there is no way He could not be a Trinity. The Trinity of Persons are essential to there being a God. To word this differently.