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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Cutter, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. Cutter

    Cutter New Member

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    "I do think at a certain point, you've made enough money,"
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2948574/obama_i_do_think_at_a_certain_point.html

    Can you believe that a President of a free capitalist society would have the audacity to say something like this publicly? :BangHead:Not too many years ago if any member of the Government, much less the President, would have said something this foolish they would have been run out on a rail. Do any of you agree with this? If so, give me a specific dollar amount when a person has made enough money.
     
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    This Should Strike Some Fear in the Hearts of BB Memebers...

    ... but, it will have it's objectors.

    Still, this is a good post, Cutter! I heard this on Fox earlier tonight, and, I couldn't believe that he'd say this.

    Just one more reason to get out and vote out the liberals and progressives in November!!!:thumbs:
     
  3. TC

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    I'll second that motion. :thumbs:
     
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    I agree - all of them - including the other wing of the Republicrats.
     
  5. NiteShift

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    And this from a guy who recieved $5 million in book royalties last year. Oops!
     
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    President Obama reported over $5 million in earnings on his 2009 1040. That 5 million big ones! As a pastor for the past 14 years I haven't even come close to one million yet. Also, Obama reported donations to charity as less than 6%. Our President is a opportunist who is playing into the wealth envy of the general population. He's also a hypocrite in that he does not practice what he preaches. The guy has a lot of nerve lecturing folks on how much is enough.
     
  7. Bob Alkire

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    As bad as Obama's giving to charity is, look at our Vice President. I did a study about 7 years ago on giving to charity, so many of our liberal friends are like the ones above. Not that conservatives were so great but they were a lot better than their liberal friends. If I recall correctly the conservatives gave more to people such as feeding and so on, while our liberal friends seem to give more to the arts and such, much less to the ones in need.
     
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    Well, since Obama made more than 5 milllion last yr, I say 2.65 million is enough to make in one yr.. and propose a bill that anything made over 2.65 million be given to the tinytim makeover charity!
     
  9. NiteShift

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    lol...but then Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and George Soros couldn't help the DNC nearly as much. It's a dilemma.
     
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    I am not sure, but the quote may be taken out of context. I do not know what the context was, but such a statement could easily be twisted.

    Does a person ever have enough money? Enough in what way? Let's say a person has enough money that they will never have to worry about running out during their lifetime. Would that be enough?

    Some years ago I was offered a job with a huge increase in salary over what I was earning. However, the new job would have meant I would be very limited in time for anything other than work.

    I decided that for me, time was more important than additional money and I turned down the job.

    Each of us has a limited amount of time. Time cannot be earned. Time cannot be set aside for a future date. To me the quality of my time left is more important than money.

    How about you?
     
  11. Eric B

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    I think the context of that is what he later says "fulfilling the core responsibilities to the financial system, to help grow the economy".
    In other words, while in the American Way, there may be no limit as to how much you can make, however, in the real system, there is only a limited amount of money in "the financial system", so if some take it all, then there won't be any left for you either. (Of course, people actually blame those lower than them for this, but that's another story).
    Also, the fact, that not all of it is even legitimately earned. As we see in the financial scandals; a lot of it is gained by dirty dealing. that is aprt of what the financial reform is aimed at.

    Though I do believe that book, speaking, etc. deals are ridiculous. But that's apart of what the same American Way has become as well. I guess people like him feel he is just one person, and he is talking about whole industries making too much, rather than individuals. (another thing to keep in mind. It's indistries draining the economy; not individuals). But it is quite extravagant.
     
  12. targus

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    Good grief !!

    Instead of admitting that you don't know what you are talking about and then proceeding to attempt to take the thread off topic - why don't you learn about the subject matter?
     
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    Normally I would. However where I am today and the computer system I am using, this link and almost all links to news are blocked ... so I cannot read the article. I was actuially surprised this BB site is not blocked.

    But, is enough every enough?
     
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    How could Obama possibly believe that there is a "limited amount of money" while spending our money like a drunken sailor.

    He has spent and is planning on spending more money than we can ever possibly hope to repay.
     
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    CTB, should the government have the right to say to a person, "You've made enough money. We're taking anything over X amount."

    A yes or no will suffice.

    (BTW...watching you try to defend Obama here was out-and-out laughable. You just can't find it in your heart to criticize the Chosen One, can you?
     
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    Only in the mind of a Marxist
     
  17. matt wade

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    I've listened to the audio of this speech (this comment isn't in the pre-released text of the speech) and to me it sounds like he is attempting to make a joke. You can tell by the tone of his voice when he makes this comment. It's a poor joke and not at all appropriate given the context it was given in.
     
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    I saw the speech. It was no joke
     
  19. Crabtownboy

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    No and for a number of reasons, the primary one being it would kill incentive, innovation and creativity.

    I was not saying the government should limit how much a person makes. I was asking is there a point where a person can say, "I have enough."

    I am not trying to defend Obama on this ... I am simply raising the question that I believe each person should consider for themselves.

    Do I have enough?
    What is more important to me for the rest of my life, quality time or money?

    For my spouse and I we decided that quality time is more important to us than more money.

    Here is a short piece on my decision to retire that I wrote for a memoir writing class I am taking at the senior center.

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    “There is more to life than walking these hallways or running an engineering library. There are places I want to go, sites I want to see and things I want to do. It is time to retire. There is a whole ‘other’ world out there beyond these corporate walls.”



    I had been thinking these thoughts for several years and now, 88 days before my 55th birthday I made my decision. I rolled a company memo sheet into my IBM selectric typewriter and typed and forwarded to my boss a short memo announcing my retirement on February 28th, 1995. The company retirement plan maxed out at age 62 and 25 years seniority. I had the 25 years and, sure, I would take a hit by retiring before I was 62 years old. So what? We would not starve. I had reached a point in my life where I considered time more important than money. Time could not be earned or saved for a later day. I, like all humans, had only so much time to live and, to me, the quality of the time left was of primary importance.

    Looking back I made the right decision. There is a whole ‘other’ world outside the corporate walls and for me it has been the best world of my life.

     
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    "I am not sure, but the quote may be taken out of context. I do not know what the context was, but such a statement could easily be twisted."


    ~Crabtownboy
     
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