Featured Officers ignore Commissioner Bratton's plea and turn their backs AGAIN on de Blasio

I don't think so. But I don't think they have complained about the protestors either.

Turning their backs on de Blasio had nothing to do with the families. That was all about politics and the police officers getting their feelings hurt.

You don't take away from the focus on the families and place it on yourself and your grievance if it's about the families.

They were acting just like the folks from Westboro. They just happened to be in dress blues. There is no difference in their selfishness and that displayed by the Westboro protestors.

 

And YOU can start by keeping my name off your fingertips.:thumbs:

 

He doesn't need to. His reality is his reality. And all the members of the NYPD saying otherwise wouldn't bring back his dead son if he were killed.

He had the talk that any parent with a son who looks black should be having.

Just like parents attempt to protect their kids by telling them not to talk to strangers or to not get into a car with someone they don't know, he had a talk with his son about the police.

Get over it.

The only apology due, if any, is one from the police officers to the Ramos and Liu families for their extremely selfish acts during the funerals of Officers Ramos and Liu.

 

Again, yall can get all politically correct all you want to. But we can't tell black people or people with black kids what their reality is and that they can't bring race into the conversation. Whether or not people in these United States of America want to admit it, black people have a different experience historically and presently with cops than do white people.

Straight foolishness. I don't know how many times I've heard that same thing out of white people lately. The average white person isn't having the talk that black parents or parents with black kids have to have with their children because we don't have to.

No all these white people are coming out the woodwork's talking about they had that talk with their kids too. I call flagrant foul in an attempt to devalue the experience of those who are black and those who have kids who are black or look black.

What you've just done is try to take skin color out of the equation when skin color is very much a part of the equation according to documented police behavior.

 

That is silly. I don't know who has convinced us that color is not a factor in the way that people treat others.

But you still have to SEE them to not judge them on the color of their skin. We should not confuse treating others as we would want to be treated with not seeing something that is a part of who they are.

It's nothing to be ashamed of to acknowledge that we see skin color. But the skin color shouldn't be used to ascribe certain traits to all people of that skin color just because of that skin color.

MLK Jr isn't the end all to conversations on race. He did a wonderful thing in moving people toward treating each other in a manner consistent with God's word. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't see or acknowledge someone's skin color any more than it means that we shouldn't acknowledge that the Ethiopian eunuch's skin was probably black or that Simon the Cyrene's skin was probably black.

It's not an issue of common sense. The average white person has not had the talk that black parents have had to have because there hasn't been a need to. It just is what it is.

White parents aren't having to tell their white sons Don't wear a hoodie or Don't try to break up a fight or Don't talk back to cops or Don't ask for help or Keep your hands at 10 and 2 and don't reach for anything even if they ask you to. Or simply Don't give them an excuse to kill you.

Then look it up yourself if it matters to you to know the truth. What you're displaying is a willful ignorance of what you don't want to be the truth.

If we have to acknowledge that skin color really does make a difference when dealing with cops, then we have to acknowledge that there really might be some privilege in not having black skin. And then that just opens up a whole can of worms that the average person in the United States doesn't want to acknowledge or deal .

 

AMEN and AMEN and AMEN!:applause:

 

Perhaps. But I guarantee that the majority of white parents aren't having this conversation with their kids because their kids aren't the ones being pulled over and frisked or arrested or shot dead at alarming rates.