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PHOTO: Man Refuses to Tip Bartender, Leaves This Note Instead

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  1. Revmitchell

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    At $15.00 an hour, the tip should be a thing of the past. The tip was for those who were getting below minimum wage.

    Having said that, I had a relative who was a waiter, and he made that much or more in tips. A lot of people who were getting tips, also were not paying taxes on some, or all of them.

    Of course it depends a lot on the place you are working
     
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    Interesting that people will argue that no upper limit on income should be placed on CEO's, yet waiters making $15 an hour is plenty of money.

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    Who are these people arguing this? Looks like a strawman to me.
     
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    I don't tip CEOs either.
     
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    I am against government being in the business setting wages, high or low.
     
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    If a restaraunt has increases the pay of the wait staff from far below minimum wage to 15.00 an hour that is quite an increase in the cost of the food as well. The management and or owners are not going to absorb that all by themselves.

    It is not a matter of the wait staff makes enough at 15.00 an hour. It is a matter of people only have so much budget to eat out with. Further, If wait staff are not getting such a wage why should tipping now be a part of the equation anyway. The tipping standard in the industry was so that the wait staff was forced to give good service because their pay depended on it with each and every customer.

    That all goes away at such a pay increase.
     
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    Tips are for good service, not as a way to compensate for lack of wages.

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    Tipping is so engrained (used my Word of the Day:)) into this culture that it has become an obligation. It is not the case in many other places, especially where waiters make a living wage.

    If one chooses, for what ever reason, not to tip here; one is remembered as a cheap person.
     
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    Suppose you and your wife go out to a fancy restaurant and have a fabulous dinner, with excellent service. Judging by the menu prices you assume the wait staffs are being adequately paid. Would you hold back a tip?

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    Mrs. Rolf and I tip for well-prepared food and good service, regardless of price or location. We do so as a courtesy and as a 'Thanks', not as an obligation.
     
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    No "maximum wage" either. Why should there be a minimum but not a maximum? And I have known some occasions where a founder or CEO or president decided to forego any compensation for a time. Why isn't that illegal by minimum wage laws? If it's because they're salaried, why can't any employee be salaried?
     
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    Then why don't we tip our doctors? Or how about the gas station attendant? The cashier at the grocery store? See, tips ARE for good service AND as a way to compensate for lack of wages. I'd love to see you tip the car repairman next time he does a good job fixing your car. ;)
     
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    Because those aren't personal services. Well, maybe the doctor.

    I recently bought a new sofa and I tipped the guy that roped and secured it in my pickup truck bed for me. I tip my barber.

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    But do you tip the cashier who bags your groceries?
     
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    Ok the industry standard has been, up to this point, tipping the wait staff and they received a small hourly wage. When the small hourlay wage changes we understand they are being paid at a much greater compensation rate then they previously were. They are no longer dependent on compensation from the customers. That changes the need for the customer to compensate them in the same way. If we have to pay higher prices for the food to cover the expense of the increased hourly wage and continue the same tipping standard then our cost of eating out has drastically increased.

    The result will be people will eat out less. I will not do both. I also used to wait tables so I understand their circumstances.
     
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    Simply said, if one wants to tip...fine. If one does not want to tip...fine, but don't complain about bad service if the wait staff remembers.
     
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    No, because I bag my own groceries. Anyways, I wouldn't tip the cashier.
     
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    Rev. try living on $15.00 an hour and see how much your lifestyle changes.

    It is a restaurant. If you do not like the prices charged, or how much the waiter or waitress makes you do not have to go. But if you do please do not insult good service with no tip.
     
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    I am not sure where people live where grocery stores still have people that bag groceries. A cashier will bag groceries here if the person is elderly or cannot do it themselves. I always carry my own bags and bag my own groceries.
     
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