Cruz not the first; Hart-Rice affair sunk his run for president!

[Jkdbuck76]

If a man cannot keep the vow he made to his wife...

...then his name rhymes with "Spill Blinton".

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[Squire Robertsson]

Then, can I assume you have not voted for a major party candidate for POTUS except for this one occasion? And can I assume there hasn't been a candidate since WJB you theoretically would have voted for?

Squire, I can't really think of one recently except for George W Bush in 2000. I got to hear what I thought was a clear testimony of a salvation experience from him. And he appeared to love his neighbors.

The thing that caused me to question him was his foolishness, three times mind you, of saying that Muslims and Christians worship the same God.Thumbsdown

I refused to vote for him a second time.

I believe that if Christians are serious about effecting change for this world and this country and the potential next generation, we can't keep supporting people to govern us who don't love Jesus and who have consistently shown through their deeds and life and political actions that they don't love their neighbors.

You don't keep a boat from sinking by continuing to pour water in it.

The state of this world and country is in large part, the fault of the Body, selfishly and unrepentantly endorsing and supporting that which is against Christ.

We have decided that our way of fixing things is the better way. Thumbsdown

 

[church mouse guy]

One of the earliest problems with Obama was his membership in a cultic church in Chicago, specifically a church that preached black liberation theology.

As for Cruz, we have had a mixed record with Southern Baptist Presidents: Truman, Carter, and Clinton. Although in the case of Cruz, we know that the National Enquirer is owned by a close friend of Donald Trump so that it appears that the allegations are from Trump in a case of a rich man using money to smear a man up from poverty, an old story.

I may be wrong but I think that Evangelical and Fundamentalist influence has waned in America in the last twenty years. New England Puritan Cotton Mather said of America: Religion begat prosperity and the daughter devoured the mother.

 

[Zaac]

Then, can I assume you have not voted for a major party candidate for POTUS except for this one occasion? And can I assume there hasn't been a candidate since WJB you theoretically would have voted for?

Pretty much. I have no delusions that folks who show no love for Christ or others will be positive for the country.

 

[Aaron]

Pretty much. I have no delusions that folks who show no love for Christ or others will be positive for the country.

"Pretty much?" You mean you "kinda" never voted for a major party candidate other than Bush? Did you or didn't you?

 

[Zaac]

"Pretty much?" You mean you "kinda" never voted for a major party candidate other than Bush? Did you or didn't you?

If you can name one who has shown himself to love Jesus and his neighbors, you've got your answer.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Using your criteria, I can assume you would only have voted for Carter in Carter v Ford. Otherwise, you wouldn't have voted for any major party candidate. Carter\Ford was the first presidential election I was eligible to vote in. Though, I was old enough to track Nixon\McGovern.

Your criteria gives us a great gap between WJB and Carter.

 

[Aaron]

Then you voted for Reagan.

 

[Zaac]

Using your criteria, I can assume you would only have voted for Carter in Carter v Ford. Otherwise, you wouldn't have voted for any major party candidate. Carter\Ford was the first presidential election I was eligible to vote in. Though, I was old enough to track Nixon\McGovern.

Your criteria gives us a great gap between WJB and Carter.

I wasn't old enough to vote back then. 1st grade. Carter would have possibly have met my first two requirements. He would not have met the third(3. Okay with killing unborn babies or killing adults). Carter seemed to straddle the fence back then. So using my today criteria, I wouldn't have voted for him either.

I just believe that a Christian's criteria for who should be placed in positions of leadership is going to be one of those things that generally goes against the grain of who "the world" thinks is qualified. And I have to be able, again, to stand before God and say I trusted YOU and your way and not some man just because I wanted someone to win an election.

 

[Zaac]

Then you voted for Reagan.

Nope. He, in my opinion, if I could have voted, didn't appear to meet requirement number 2 or 3, so certain actions would have called the truth of #1 into question.

I think most folks who call themselves Christians seem to have a problem consistently demonstrating their love for their neighbors. And though I wouldn't have voted for him either, that does seem to be one area,IMO, that President Obama seems to have exampled a bit better than some of the more recent Presidents.

 

[Rippon]

Zaac, other than William Jennings Bryan, which major party presidential candidate would you have voted for? I can't think of any other than WJB who had a clear testimony of salvation.

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President was a Christian of a Congregationalist background.

John Anderson, who ran for President in 1980 as an Independent in 1980, is a Christian. He's with the Evangelical Free Church. Born in 1922, he's still alive.

 

[Zaac]

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President was a Christian of a Congregationalist background.

John Anderson, who ran for President in 1980 as an Independent in 1980, is a Christian. He's with the Evangelical Free Church. Born in 1922, he's still alive.

I'm sure there probably would have been a lot better pool of folks to write-in back then too. And they tended to be a bit more Biblically conservative. And THAT is the type of conservatism that I look for in candidates. I want to know that they agree with God.