A Day of Unrest and Riots in Atlanta and the Most Powerful Job in the Country

Yeah, but the crimes he committed were only resisting arrest, trying to evade capture, and a DUI. Nothing worth a potentially lethal encounter.

I'll share that in the gun fight I was near, the security guard missed the bank robber with every round. That makes me more angry at the security guard. The cops established a few kilometer perimeter and found the robbers easy. I may be wrong, but this incident in Atlanta doesn't seem like a crime worthy of immediate pursuit with a deadly weapon was justified.

Then again, if as the FBI Agent I saw on the news said, that taser are considered a deadly weapon to an officer. The problem is not the officer but his training.

 

Oops I forgot that. I'll step back and say this incident is very nebulous. Our back and forth with people in this thread proves that.

If the saints, those with much better judgment than unbelievers can't pin things down, then we are dealing with a very difficult situation. I'll step back from emotion and try to think about this.

 

I'm unable to purchase a gun. I have a mental illness. Yeah, I am a military analyst. When hired I will get clearance, but I can't own a gun. Stupid laws. Florida is nicer than most though. I can petition the court for my rights and my therapist was behind me in this. I may have to, Orlando is pretty dangerous depending on neighborhood.

 

I'd like to meet a local. Hook me up when COVID gets overcone so much we can do public events again, thank you.

 

Agreed that we are innocent till proven guilty. I also watch law enforcement shows and know most are public servants doing rightly.

I found this statute on the use of force by law enforcement in Georgia.

(b) Sheriffs and peace officers who are appointed or employed in conformity with Chapter 8 of Title 35 may use deadly force to apprehend a suspected felon only when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of physical violence to the officer or others; or when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm. Nothing in this Code section shall be construed so as to restrict such sheriffs or peace officers from the use of such reasonable nondeadly force as may be necessary to apprehend and arrest a suspected felon or misdemeanant.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE :: CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS :: ARTICLE 2 - ARREST BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS GENERALLY :: § 17-4-20 - Authorization of arrests with and without warrants generally; use of deadly force; adoption or promulgation of conflicting regulations, policies, ordinances, and resolutions; authority of nuclear power facility security officer

Ok, this leaves only one question. Is a taser, when used offensively, a weapon that can inflict serious harm?

I found tasers are considered to cause serious bodily harm when used offensively.

Using a stun gun or Taser might also carry felony charges under other statutes that don’t specifically mention these electrical weapons. For instance, it’s considered aggravated assault when the crime is carried out with a deadly weapon or any device that causes or is likely to cause serious bodily injury when used offensively. Also, armed robbery involves using an offensive weapon to forcibly take property away from someone. The Georgia Supreme Court has recognized that stun guns and Tasers may be considered offensive weapons that are likely to result in serious bodily injury, depending on how they’re used (Harwell v. State, 512 S.E.2d 892 (Ga. Sup. Ct. 1999)).

Stun Gun Laws in Georgia

However, the perpetrator was shot in the back after discharging his taser, but given everything happened in seconds. The officer was likely justified to use deadly force.

That said, this was lawful but awful. Training needs to change IMO. This case highlights that.

 

I've been in fights as an unbeliever back in time. Two almost always beat one. Just weird a sleepy drunk beats two officers and steals one's weapon. All while being tazed.

 

I found this statute on the use of force by law enforcement in Georgia.

(b) Sheriffs and peace officers who are appointed or employed in conformity with Chapter 8 of Title 35 may use deadly force to apprehend a suspected felon only when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury; when the officer reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of physical violence to the officer or others; or when there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm. Nothing in this Code section shall be construed so as to restrict such sheriffs or peace officers from the use of such reasonable nondeadly force as may be necessary to apprehend and arrest a suspected felon or misdemeanant.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE :: CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS :: ARTICLE 2 - ARREST BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS GENERALLY :: § 17-4-20 - Authorization of arrests with and without warrants generally; use of deadly force; adoption or promulgation of conflicting regulations, policies, ordinances, and resolutions; authority of nuclear power facility security officer

Ok, this leaves only one question. Is a taser, when used offensively, a weapon that can inflict serious harm?

I found tasers are considered to cause serious bodily harm when used offensively.

Using a stun gun or Taser might also carry felony charges under other statutes that don’t specifically mention these electrical weapons. For instance, it’s considered aggravated assault when the crime is carried out with a deadly weapon or any device that causes or is likely to cause serious bodily injury when used offensively. Also, armed robbery involves using an offensive weapon to forcibly take property away from someone. The Georgia Supreme Court has recognized that stun guns and Tasers may be considered offensive weapons that are likely to result in serious bodily injury, depending on how they’re used (Harwell v. State, 512 S.E.2d 892 (Ga. Sup. Ct. 1999)).

Stun Gun Laws in Georgia

However, the perpetrator was shot in the back after discharging his taser, but given everything happened in seconds. The officer was likely justified to use deadly force.

That said, this was lawful, but training needs to change IMO.