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    Well it moves Revelation 20 and places it as a dispensation. Not sure how not saying a dispensation can exist removes one from dispensational error. Athiest refuse to say God does not exist. They just believe they do not know. No one gets to use "A" as in "does not exist". It is just a symbolic notion.
     
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    Do you have a driving force that demands seeing the Antichrist?
     
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    What kind of question is that? Did you ever look at 2,000 years of church history?
     
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    Since when does God operate solely on your personal beliefs? You can wave goodby. The "who to" is not up to your beliefs though.

    This is not based on your position in Christ. This observation is only on your choice of who you wave to.
     
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    The evidence you will not drop the conversation is this post.
     
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    Well Until the forth century ( Augustine) most of what you believe never existed . But who's depending on History and tradition right ..All you have done is quote scripture. If I quote it back the same way ,will you understand what I'm saying ?
     
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    This is the 6th seal event. It is definitely not the battle of Armageddon. Part of this event is removing Satan from access to the throne. This access is still ongoing even after God on the throne and the Lamb are in clear view of all on earth. The 7th Trumpet is the trigger of Michael removing Satan from being the Adversary and accuser. It is at this time the 42 months is being set up. The battle of Armageddon is at the end of the 42 months.
     
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    You would prefer to be here with the Antichrist than with God. I was just curious.
     
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    Are we still in jail , under condemnation, after we are in Christ?
     
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    No, you just have the traditional dispensationalist snobbery.
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    Or we should recognise some things are different at different times in the bible.
     
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    Are you nuts? The other poster was saying that post-tribulation was part of dispensationalism but he had not one link to any proof of his definition.
     
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    // They are all emphatic that good Christians have a ticket to escape the Tribulation, to get out of jail free.///
     
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    We are talking about eschatology only.
     
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    I thought you were stigmatising dispensationalism?
     
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    No, I don't care enough about it to bother with it.
     
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    It seems you are saying neither the book of Daniel nor 2 Peter existed until Augustine.
     
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    You realize that Rev 4:1 -22:4 is figurative, poetic language, don't you? Attempting to timeline the vision is an effort in futility.
     
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    Right. In the old board game of Monopoly, you could draw a card to get out of jail free if you ever landed on the square to go directly to jail. Dispensationalism teaches that Christians will be raptured before the Tribulation. This doctrine dates to the early 19th century in England.
     
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