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It is not rhetoric.

I oppose the position you (and @Reynolds and @Revmitchell ) suggest.

It is wrong to deny a man the right to decide for himself how he will run his business as long as he is operating legally.

You imply that you have the right to demand men relinquish contr of their businesses....their property...to a minority of Americans.

That is not right. It is a slap in the face to those who have fought and died to protect tge freedoms we have in this country.

 

This is not true.

For my job I have to take hospitals (including an EKG). I have to have blood drawn for a baseline mercury program.

These are requirements of the job.

I have to be stuck with a needle and blood drawn as a condition of employment.

I can refuse. They are not forcing me. I'd just have to find another job.

You are trying to strip away a man's rights to their own business. That is un-American, unconstitutional, and wrong.

 

It is illegal (see Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964).

Businesses are required to operate within the confines of the law. Chemical companies can't just dump into a river.

But it is not illegal for a business to require immunizations, physicals, drug tests, ekg's, blood tests, etc. as a condition of employment.

 

Was it legal or illegal? (See Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964).

If it was not against anti-discrimination laws then yes, it was wrong.

 

@Reynolds , @Revmitchell , @Wingman68

You are all getting very silly here.

You are NOT saying a business should be prohibited from making illegal choices.

You are saying a man has no right to decide how his property is run even if he is within the law.

You are socialistic. Let companies devide. If you don't like their decisions then don't work for them....don't support them.

BUT stop trying to chip away at tge freedoms of Americans.

 

Here is an illustration to explain the diffetence:

I have a restaurant and decide to enforce a dress code (jacket and tie). That is legal. @Revmitchell ,@Wingman68 and @Reynolds take the position anybody who does not like the dresscode are being forced to wear a jacket and tie, therefore their freedom to not do so is taken. But they forget the person who prefers comfort does not have a right to eat at my restaurant and can go elsewhere.

Say @Revmitchell owns a restaurant next door and he hates Black people. So he decides to refuse service to a family because of the color of their skin. The family does not have a right to eat at Reverend's Bar and Grill....but it is illegal for Revmitchell to discriminate against them based on race.

Suppose @Reynolds has a store and decides he does not want any employees wearing masks. Unless there is a legitimate medical condition requiring the person to wear a mask he can make that decision. That said, Reynolds argument is he cannot....the people should decide.

 

Not at all. I believe our freedoms are crumbling.

We have leftists Democrats who want to usher in "Democratic Socialism" (which is really just Socialism) on one side and we have anti-covid-vaxer socialists who want to do the same thing on the other side.

You seem to think it is OK to strip away freedoms from business owners if it is contrary to others who want to strip away freedoms.

In the end, you are just as bad as the Dems. Both of you are attacking America, just from different angles.

The fact you, @Revmitchell ,@Reynolds , and @Wingman68 are conservatives who want to decide for another man how that person will run their business but cannot even see how this is socialistic is proof that our freedoms are being eroded.

 

No. Agreement or disagreements has nothing to do with it.

I would not agree that a business should prohibit masks. But I do support the owners right to make that decision (I'd just go elsewhere).

You, on the other hand, want to take away an owners right to conduct his business as he sees fit (within the law). That is socialistic.

It is not about the decision made. It is about not stripping away a man's right to make his decisions.

This is also why I am opposed to forced vaccinations.

People should make decisions unions for themselves - but they cannot take away another person's right to provide even more options.

You ate socialistic. There is no getting around that fact. You are just a conservative who holds socialistic ideologies as opposed to liberals who hold socialistic ideologies. Both of you would most likely enjoy some form of communism, but your communism would look differently and have different people at the top.

 

Ok....you tell me.

Do you believe a private business owner has the right to require immunizations, blood tests, physicals, etc. as a condition of employment or do you believe those rights (which owners currently have) should be taken away?

Do you believe people, including owners of businesses, should have the right to look at the evidence, risks, and benefits and make their own choices or should they submit to your opinions or the opinions of employees?

Do you believe employers have the right to choose employees or do you believe people have the right of employment?

So far you have taken a very socialistic position. Correct your position now and let us know what you think.

 

I have not admitted to being a troll. You are just blowing smoke to conceal the fact you are advocating removing the rights of private businesses.

I served our nation for 23 years and am more than disheartened to see you fighting so hard to take away freedoms.