1 Timothy 2:4 - "God wills ALL men to be saved"

It's a mystery (He had to give an explanation).

HankD

 

Right. By tomorrow there may be 4.

I remember a professor saying

"Class I am looking for students with only one hand.."

Puzzled looks...

You know, the ones who, when I ask a question, never say "on the other hand...".

HankD

 

Indeed we are all God's creation.

Are all of God's human creation adopted by God?
Ephesians 1:4-6
[4]Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.
[5]God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.
[6]So we praise God for the glorious grace he has poured out on us who belong to his dear Son.

 

Which was?

 

You answered your own question M.

HankD

 

THE HONEST REPROBATE.


1 John 5

9If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son. 10The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son.11And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.


John Calvin's Commentaries:

10. He that believeth not As the faithful possess this benefit, that they know themselves to be beyond the danger of erring, because they have God as their foundation; so he makes the ungodly to be guilty of extreme blasphemy, because they charge God with falsehood. Doubtless nothing is more valued by God than his own truth, therefore no wrong more atrocious can be done to him, than to rob him of this honor. Then in order to induce us to believe, he takes an argument from the opposite side; for if to make God a liar be a horrible and execrable impiety, because then what especially belongs to him is taken away, who would not dread to withhold faith from the gospel, in which God would have himself to be counted singularly true and faithful? This ought to be carefully observed.
Some wonder why God commends faith so much, why unbelief is so severely condemned. But the glory of God is implicated in this; for since he designed to shew a special instance of his truth in the gospel, all they who reject Christ there offered to them, leave nothing to him. Therefore, though we may grant that a man in other parts of his life is like an angel, yet his sanctity is diabolical as long as he rejects Christ. Thus we see some under the Papacy vastly pleased with the mere mask of sanctity, while they still most obstinately resist the gospel. Let us then understand, that it is the beginning of true religion, obediently to embrace this doctrine, which he has so strongly confirmed by his testimony




"all they who reject Christ there offered to them, leave nothing to him." --John Calvin.


One calls God a Liar by rejecting Jesus who God gave for THEM for ETERNAL LIFE.

If a "reprobate" says God did not let Jesus die for me, according to scripture HE IS A LIAR.


But our extremist buddies here would say the REBROBATE is Honest and telling the TRUTH, that Jesus did not die for him!


You have to make a case that John is in error because the reprobate is telling the TRUTH because Jesus Christ was not offered to them.

 

Then you agree. God does not adopt all humanity, which means that some are predestined to eternal life while others are destined to hell.

 

You are trying to make up my mind with your answer.

HankD

 

Nope, I let the text speak for itself. Whether you allow the text to be what it is is another question.
What I note is that you refused to answer my question.

Does God adopt all humanity? The text is right there for you to answer my question.

 

Adopt in the context is no doubt a reference to regeneration.

There is no rule that requires me to answer your question.

But to satisfy what seems to be a question motivated by a Pharisaical attitude; the answer is - no He does not adopt the entire human race. The remainder of those not adopted are not technically destined for "hell" but are ultimately destined to be cast into the lake of fire in the state of eternal separation from God.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

HankD

 

Right. Adoption is referring to regeneration and as hard as it seems for you to accept, predestination to heaven means that those not destined to heaven are...not going to heaven, but to hell.
This takes place because God as the Sovereign King makes His choice purely because He can. There is no reason to be proud of being chosen because there is nothing of value in us that God might choose us. Instead it is humbling that God would choose us wretches from other wretches. We praise God and thank Him eternally.

 

They used bible quotes to back that up

 

Who worships calvin? Dumbest excuse from anti calvins

 

Agreed. But I certainly experienced both my physical and spiritual births.

Don't quite remember the physical.

HankD