Featured 2 Cor. 5:18-19

We shouldn't need Gill to tell us, as believers, how to understand God's word, Alan.

 

1.) The text actually says God is reconciling the world to Himself. So that refers to an ongoing process. God is reconciling the world (humankind) to Himself, one sinner at a time. Therefore the "us" (verse 18) refers to those God has already placed into the body of Christ, thus a done dead of reconciliation.

2.) Referring to those reconciled, those placed in Christ already, He removed their sin burden, what God had held against them as a consequence of their sins, by the washing of regeneration, also called the circumcision of Christ, because Christ's sacrifice, the shedding of His blood, provides the justification for the forgiveness of their sins.

An important additional point of the passage is assigning us (those reconciled already) the ministry of reconciliation, begging the lost to be reconciled to God through belief in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

The Divine Interpretations that Glorify God is how to understand God's Word.

In "God So Loved the world....", the word, 'world' DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE in THE WORLD, for God to Be Glorified.

The ONE Divine Interpretation is that by comparing those Scriptures mentioned, we KNOW that the word, 'world', DOES NOT MEAN, 'EVERYONE'.

No more than we can combine, "For God So Loved the world" WITH "love not the world".

The word, 'world' in John 3:16 &
2 Cor. 5:19 expresses the Gentiles, as well as, the Jews.

IT MEANS NOTHING ELSE.

 

Thanks Alan.
I agree with you.

 

[2 Corinthians 5:18-19]

[KJV] 18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

[NKJV] 18 Now all things [are] of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

[NIV] 18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

[NASB] 18 Now all [these] things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Verb tense.

 

Hey Alan, you have helped me in the past and you are really smart but I think you need a new bible.

Yours does not have 1 Timothy 4:10:

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach,
because we trust in the living God,
who is the Saviour
of all men,
specially of those that believe.

and 1 John 2:2

And he is the propitiation
for our sins:
and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

Folks do you believe this poster is really of understanding those born anew have been past tense reconciled, but God is still reconciling the world (humankind) one sinner at a time at the present and until the end comes.

 

Can you not read? Please address what I said. Did you read "reconciled the world" or reconciling the world. Do you read reconciled us or reconciling us. Good golly miss molly

 

He addressed the scripture as Paul wrote it (past tense) not as you misquote it (present perfect tense).

 

... but "this poster" knows a PAST TENSE verb when he sees one (like in 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

 

Once Calvinist after another avoids the obvious truth, God is reconciling the world, and has reconciled some of the world, those who have been placed into the body of Christ.

 

Van,
This has nothing to do with John Calvin...
We're talking about Scripture and what the words on the page actually say.

As for the truth, as you see it:

Sometimes what you see as "obvious", isn't to someone else.
Sometimes what I see as "obvious", is not...again, to someone who does not see it as obvious.

IMO, that's why these discussions keep happening.

 

SGO,
Take a look at Psalms 107.

noun
noun: saviour; plural noun: saviours; noun: savior; plural noun: saviors
" a person who saves someone or something (especially a country or cause) from danger, and who is regarded with the veneration of a religious figure."

"Saviour" is also "Deliverer" in the temporal, earthly sense.

 

I don't get your point although it was a blessing to read the Psalm.


"Saviour" is also "Deliverer" in the temporal, earthly sense.

You say I'm only saved temporally?

I don't have real long to go before my salvation is out then. Nice knowing you.

Isn't that Psalm also talking about eternal salvation in a figurative sense?
Like what Paul was implying in Romans 15:4?

 

Equating John Calvin's views with Calvinism is bogus.

 

Why do posters claim 2 Corinthians 5:19 says God reconciled the world? Just read it folks, God is reconciling the world. Here is the bogus claim, left unsaid: God has reconciled the Elect. But do they put this out in print? Nope, they employ double speak.
But the verse actually means God is reconciling humankind. Every individual is part of humankind, part of the world, and so when God puts an individual spiritually into the body of Christ, God is reconciling the world.

Do I put the point of reconciliation at the point of belief? Nope. Then when? When God places an individual into the Christ spiritually, where they undergo the washing of regeneration, also called the circumcision of Christ.