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A History of US Gun Rights

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Agent47, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. Rolfe

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    What I see is that your avatar clouds your credibility on the subject. That you also appear to know so little about firearms yet still argue points that are erroneous destroys what’s left of it.
     
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    Yes it has. That is why disarming the civilians preceded Nazi take over of Germany and Communist take over of Russia.
    As it stands now, the military could not control this nation without destroying it.
     
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    NO, not just mass shooters and in fact a VERY VERY SMALL fraction of AR15 owners ARE MASS SHOOTERS. This is a falsehood that people owning these are MASS SHOOTERS.

    One of my veteran sons (who had the necessary firearms license/documentations) and I built and rebuilt AR15s. I cleaned but did not assemble the parts as did my gunsmith son.

    I was a qualified .30 caliber carbine technician from my own military days though my primary AFSC was intel/info. Don't ask about either :)

    These weapons are COLLECTIBLES many which have never been fired beyond the test phase and as such are valuable investments.

    Just as valuable - and some even exceedingly valuable - just as valuable as rare gold and silver coinage.

    One of my uncles - a USAF bombardier/navigator rewarded himself handsomely in his retirement via his pistol collection acquired in the USAF.

    SO firearms are part of the rich American capitalist heritage. their ammo manufacturing as well.
     
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    Could somebody summarize the (over) one hour long video I'm supposed to watch? What is the gist of the video?
     
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    Guns are bad.
     
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    Excellent attempt atf trying to “prove a negative”!!!
    Also a feeble attempt at trying to sound “intelligent”!!!
    FAILURE on both counts.
     
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    Take the plug out of my 70-year-old Ithaca model 37 and fill it with 00-buck and that coward could've caused just about as much carnage in 5 seconds. In 30 he'd have time to load/fire 5 more rounds even if he was as clumsy as I am. With practice he could probably fire 15 rounds - 135 buckshot (180 if it had a 3" chamber) - in half a minute.
     
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    Yep. The Trench gun is so nasty that Hitler wanted it outlawed as a battle weapon due to its inhumanity.

    Imagine the carnage of #4 buck or #1 buck. Even single 0 buck.
     
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    notice the timing of each mass shooting and the pressure on the Democrats or upcoming votes on legislation.

    notice how no one is talking about Elijah Cumming and missing billions
     
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    My old single shot patterned #4 much better than OO. 24 pellets per bang rather than 9.
     
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    After meandering all over nobody has disproved any single point in that video
     
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    The AR15 is not the ultimate killing machine. In fact, it's a low-powered rifle. Get some education about realities and not liberal talking points.
     
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    The revolutionary war proves you are wrong.
     
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    A real history of the gun debate in America would include the D*ms attempt after the civil war to disarm newly freed slaves so their KKK could terrorize former slaves and not get shot at.

    Look where the strictest g*n laws are. Those citizens are helpless from criminals.

    Peace to you
     
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    You would be better served watching Hickok45. You’d be better educated about firearms.

    He probably has a video explaining the difference between semiautomatics and machine guns...
     
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    As for AR 15s, I prefer to sidestep them and buy a Mini-14. It's not a main battle rifle. But it's used by interior forces around the world.
     
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    Yes it is, and that's why mass shooters are going for it. I doubt there is any other gun available to civilians that can match its killing power for the same price.

    Name any
     
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    The Ruger Mini-14
     
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    I'll look it up and get back
     
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    Our weapon was the USAF .30 caliber carbine which I liked very much.
     
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