http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/a-pastoral-letter-to-whit_b_6315396.html
Long but a good read.
A Pastoral Letter to White Americans
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Dec 15, 2014.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
How many black men have gunds or knifes when killed by cops?
How many black men do not have any kind of weapon .... and are killed by another black man?
Give me some numbers to referrence Zaac, and then we'll see if this is as out of control as those protesting want us to believe. -
White people kill white people. Black people kill black people. Chinese people kill Chinese people. Hispanics kill Hispanics.
Point being, the red herring has nothing to do with cops killing unarmed black men.
But part of the white privilege narrative that we refuse to accept is that some of us really don't care. For if you did, you'd look up the statistics yourself because that's what we do when something matters to us.
So pull yourself out of the fake concern mode and look it up if it means a hill of beans to ya.
Like the guy said. Stop talking so much and listen for a change.
The right never listens to anything that the black community says and they know this. They know that the response is always going to be the GOP narrative of if they would just behave, or if they would just respect the cops, or if they cared more for their communities, or if there were fathers raising their kids, or if they took responsibility and stopped blaming everybody else.
They've heard it all before and are aware that it means just what they believe: the right isn't listening and doesn't really care because white privilege has blinded them . If Blacks are experiencing this everyday and you go into white neighborhoods and the same sort of treatment isn't taking place, then Houston, we have a problem.
And now the world knows it. And that's why you've got black, white, yellow, and every other color skin around the globe protesting.
The genie is out of the bottle. ANd now the world knows it. Don't feign outrage about the senseless killing of the unborn and think it's gonna mean squat to anyone when they see just how little, if at all, the Rev Mitchells, and the carpros, and the righteousdudes, and the Oldregulars, and the church mouse guys, and the just want peaces of the evangelical political right cares about those outside the womb. -
Or is it the facts will get in the way of opinion.
BTW, I did post some actual facts previously -.... -
I'll be honest, I read right up to the two lines that said an unarmed teenager shot, and a man choked to death. The very wording was biased, and sensationalist. Was going to read the whole thing, but when I saw those words, I knew I didn't have to.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Guys Zaac has revealed himself as an extremist with some very troubling posts. You really need to leave him alone. I suspect he will not be around much longer should he persist.
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But then we wonder why a lot of Blacks insist that there is systemic racial prejudice. I think you just demonstrated perfectly why Blacks speak of white privilege and systemic racial prejudice and flat out racism.
If it's anything but the narrative that the majority wants to hear, it's discounted and pushed to the side as though their reality just doesn't matter or at least doesn't deserve the time of day. -
So lets reverse the trend and 5, 50 or 500 unarmed white people start getting killed every year. Let's let the police start driving up in white suburbia and shooting kids with air soft guns cause there's certainly a lot of them.
It's not a reasonable request. It's a reasonable, white privileged excuse to say again "Oh we political conservatives value the life of the unborn, but you can kill 4 or 500 black people, and we simply don't think that's out of control".
But now it's on display for the whole world to see. -
Zaac- Why not simply cite some statistics? You do not help your case by dancing around it.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
This is the worst piece of crap I've had the displeasure of reading.
This is as bad as the time you added to Christ's words on the cross.
To my permanent killfile with you. -
What statistics are gonna mean anything if people aren't even willing to admit the reality of what Blacks feel they are experiencing?
If I said 1000 a year, some would claim that to hardly be out of control.
If I said more blacks have been killed by police than all of the Jim Crow lynchings, excuses would be made.
No amount of statistics is going to mean anything to a lot of white people because it's not their sons and husbands being shot and left to lie in the street like a dog.
Remember how quickly white America responded when the knockout game was targeting Whites? That's kinda how Blacks feel about the police.
No matter what the reality of Blacks is, there are those who are gonna contend that it's all on them and that systemic racial prejudices and racism has nothing to do with it.
So statistics are futile. This is about people not listening. I read an essay the other day and it really explained the dynamic well.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
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Pretty consistent of folks who don't listen. -
Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
Total crap. Some folks can lie with such a straight face it is horrifying. -
Scarlett O. ModeratorModerator
I read the whole thing. Twice.
I listened.
I felt it was biased.
Why do I need to stop talking because I'm white? Why must I stop saying that I am not a racist because I am white?
Because I am talking does not mean that I don't listen.
Because I listen doesn't forbid me from talking.
Yes, everyone has a story. Everyone should be heard.
But those who speak must speak the truth - painful, hard to hear, or not - and it must be without sensation, bias, or with an intent to incite. -
Zaac, you couldn't be more wrong. It's not "This isn't what I want to hear", it's "This guy is so biased that he won't listen to reason."
Whoever wrote that piece used wordings that were intentionally inflammatory, and painted a false picture. In fact, he outright ignored fact and lied.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
The O/P is a load.
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