I have not PMed JDF about this myself because I've found that it is best to address this stuff at least directly to the person in the open (so that I can't be accused of any sort of impropriety). The accusation was made in public and so I felt it right to address it directly. However, from the moment he said I attacked his kids, I've asked for proof and he's not shown it. So I decided that after all these times and probably no less than him pointing this out in 4-5 different threads over and over again and STILL not showing proof, it was time to bring this to the full light. I understand the idea of going to him privately but I do not like to be attacked in the dark as well. I always walk in the light to be sure to stay safe and I felt that way with this issue as well.
A public thread asking for proof of me attacking a member's children
Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by annsni, Jan 20, 2011.
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JohnDeereFan said: ↑What's to resolve? I find that it would be better just to ignore her, rather to try to pretend like there is a one sided resolution with someone who has so much hatred and bitterness that she starts a thread for no other purpose to attack me and to gin up animosity toward me among all of her little playground pals.Click to expand...
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JohnDeereFan said: ↑What's to resolve? I find that it would be better just to ignore her, rather to try to pretend like there is a one sided resolution with someone who has so much hatred and bitterness that she starts a thread for no other purpose to attack me and to gin up animosity toward me among all of her little playground pals.Click to expand...
We are one in the Spirit,
We are one in the Lord....
And they'll know we are Christians by our....
...wounded pride and defensive comments on Baptist internet discussion forums...
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annsni said:I have not PMed JDF about this myself because I've found that it is best to address this stuff at least directly to the person in the open (so that I can't be accused of any sort of impropriety).Click to expand...
Matthew 18:15 - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
JohnDeereFan said:What's to resolve?Click to expand...
Romans 12:18 - If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Nor is it my fault that you asked me to defend something that I had no control over.Click to expand...
I find that it would be better just to ignore her...Click to expand...
...rather to try to pretend like there is a one sided resolution with someone who has so much hatred and bitterness that she starts a thread for no other purpose to attack me and to gin up animosity toward me among all of her little playground pals.Click to expand...
I have no animosity towards you. I asked simple questions of you and Ann. She answered. You have not. By not answering the question, you have left it up to everybody else to decide what the truth is instead of speaking for yourself. -
ccrobinson said: ↑But, Ann, this isn't the Biblical approach to handling conflict. We're given instructions in Matthew 18 on how to handle conflict. I think that you should have talked to him privately before starting this thread..Click to expand...
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supporterccrobinson said:Ann is well-liked and respected on this board.Click to expand...
You call her names and yet deride her for her so-called "hatred and bitterness"? That's the very definition of irony.Click to expand...
Dude, seriously, grow up. An ignore list? Like you've ignored Ann? Put me on your childish ignore list all you want. It truly doesn't matter to me. You just showed me everything I need to know.Click to expand...
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ccrobinson said: ↑But, Ann, this isn't the Biblical approach to handling conflict. We're given instructions in Matthew 18 on how to handle conflict. I think that you should have talked to him privately before starting this thread.
Matthew 18:15 - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.Click to expand... -
JohnDeereFan said: ↑Good. Then she should have so many other people to talk to her that she won't miss me at all.Click to expand...
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Animosity? Hardly. Regardless, it's irrelevant to the OP.
What's relevant is that you won't answer any of the questions that you're asked. You can pretend to be above it, but what it looks like is that you're afraid to answer questions. Or, perhaps you think you're above being questioned.
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I've read through several of the threads that you and JDF have both been on and I've only noticed [edited for personal attacks] on his posts. Unfortunately, there are quite a few of those standing right now.
I did observe that in many of the posts, statements seemed to be taken quite personally which is probably where the perceived insults arose. I see this more and more often. A general statement is made and someone gets more than a bit worked up. I didn't see any insults/attacks (never expect to read any) from you Ann. I didn't see any from MK either - just statements taken the wrong way fwiw. I am actually at a loss for his reponses.
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mcdirector said: ↑I've read through several of the threads that you and JDF have both been on and I've only noticed [edited for personal attacks] on his posts. Unfortunately, there are quite a few of those standing right now.
I did observe that in many of the posts, statements seemed to be taken quite personally which is probably where the perceived insults arose. I see this more and more often. A general statement is made and someone gets more than a bit worked up. I didn't see any insults/attacks (never expect to read any) from you Ann. I didn't see any from MK either - just statements taken the wrong way fwiw. I am actually at a loss for his reponses.
I do love ccrobinson's advice about the PM based on Mt 18:15, but having watched this go downhill, it probably would have ended up here anyway.Click to expand...
Oh well. At least I got all of the evidence together in one place. I know the internet is a place of "forever" and if this comes up that I, as a pastor's wife, once attacked someone's kids online, at least I can show the information in one place without having to look for it. I'm also copying the info for myself in a file to save. It's sad that I have to do this but I feel it's necessary, you know? -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporterglfredrick said: ↑God gave us the means to worship Him in multiple creative ways. If a man like David, "a man after God's own heart" could dance before the Lord, then dancing before the Lord is okay by me.
Same with music... Psalm 150 reads like a rock band.
Interestingly, the picture of worship that we cannot find in the Bible is a silenced people sitting on wooden pews, listening to a boring preacher go on and on with personal illustration for too many hours three times a week. Every other expression of worship, from singing, dance, song-writing of various styles and natures, flags, standing, shouting, praising, clapping, etc., are all in the Word in some place or another.Click to expand...
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Earth said: ↑What our brother just said twofold. I will add that since we met here last June, that you have comported yourself altogether as Godly & Charitable Woman. considering both you, your husband & your family have done so much in church planting endeavors, who could ever question you and/or your kin.
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Sister Ann
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You know, I had to go back and reread those threads (there were more than one btw) to remember just what JDF was complaining about. It was dumb then, its even dumber now, ALMOST A YEAR LATER!
JohnDeerFan said:What's to resolve? I find that it would be better just to ignore her, rather to try to pretend like there is a one sided resolution with someone who has so much hatred and bitterness that she starts a thread for no other purpose to attack me and to gin up animosity toward me among all of her little playground pals.Click to expand...
Put up or shut up. Prove Ann insulted or "attacked" your children or back off and man up to an apology.
You can search more easily by pulling up Ann's or my "posts" and then watching for the check-mark indicators for a thread where you both/we posted. You have to page through to find the date range (3/16/2010). Ann is more prolific than I am so if you are searching her posts from last March will be on or around page 16.
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JohnDeereFan Well-Known MemberSite Supportermenageriekeeper said: ↑You know, I had to go back and reread those threads (there were more than one btw) to remember just what JDF was complaining about. It was dumb then, its even dumber now, ALMOST A YEAR LATER!
Good grief JDF, I thought you'd moved beyond this sort of thing! Just what good does it do to even bring this issue back up after this length of time?
Put up or shut up. Prove Ann insulted or "attacked" your children or back off and man up to an apology.
You can search more easily by pulling up Ann's or my "posts" and then watching for the check-mark indicators for a thread where you both/we posted. You have to page through to find the date range (3/16/2010). Ann is more prolific than I am so if you are searching her posts from last March will be on or around page 16.
Honestly, this behavior is unbecoming to a Christian.Click to expand...
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