Define "girly girly". Just because a song is soft, and makes you cry, that is not "girly girly".
Are there hymns about pink bows and dresses that I am not aware of?
A rant about worship songs
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by annsni, Sep 1, 2010.
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And that is manifest in worship service how?
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I see the basic differance between todays worsip music and the worship music of the past in light of Romans 1:25. The music of the past was more Creator honoring while today tends to honor the creation. the blue skys, the babbling brooks and the green trees. In addition today there is more "I," "me" or "us".
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Oh and as for the blue skies, babbling brooks and the green trees - you mean like "This is My Father's World" that is almost 110 years old?? :) -
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I don't like repetition in "worship music" like what you all are discussing here. It reminds me of the mantra music of the Buddhists and other
types of religions that try to bring the worshipper into a trance state.
I found an interesting webpage that discusses this. DISCLAIMER: I do
not necessarily endorse this, I am just offering a link here for your perusal.
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That's repeated 32 times in 4 verses.
Must be Buddhist.
Please list all the repetitive, Buddhist Psalms that you don't read or enjoy as well.
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It's not the repetition of the chorus that gets me so much as repeating the same song over and over and over and over for 10 minutes.
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I'm OK with questions of preference (liking one way of singing versus another).
I have a real problem with the questioning of worship's validity (and the insinuation of false worship) based on how many times something is repeated (something Scripture itself does!) -
No one is saying that it is false worship to repeat a song or chorus over and over. What it does show is a lack of creativity of the worship/song leader. If a song has a repeating chorus, let's not repeat the repeating song over and over. Is that too much to ask? Intersperse that song with songs that don't repeat. And move on to the next one.
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In my opinion the "problems" presented in the opening post are 100% devoid of merit...in every way.
I have such sorrow for these poor, legalistic, narrow minded ones who bring accusations like this against contemporary praise and worship music. (and dance in worship)
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O, yes, there are about 35 songs that start with "O" or "Oh".
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I think most adults are smart enough to know that having the words me or I or my in a song doesn't mean it is me-centered.
There certainly is a place for songs testifying to what God has done for us.
There is a place for songs testifying to our response, our appreciation, etc.
But c'mon, we all know that SOME of both the old and new songs are just focused on the worshipper--sort of "God, I'm so good and I love you so much and I will never ever fail you."
Yeah, right, ask Peter how that worked for him.
As to repetition--there is a huge difference between a repeated theme--like the Psalm with "His mercy endures forever" and using repetition to induce a trance like state.
And yes, I've been in Baptist churches where the latter was exactly what was happening.
I suggest, whatever genre we use, we watch ourselves. If what we are doing loses something with our eyes open, chances are it is having a mind altering effect. (Note I did not say never close your eyes while you sing. I said try what you are doing with eyes open. Try sitting still. Yes, sitting, so you get plenty of blood to the brain. This is just an experiment.) If it still moves you right up to the Throne, praise Him! If not, try a different genre.
And listen to the words. If it exalts Him, wonderful. If it is all about your passion (not His) and your love (not His) and your faithfulness (not His) try a different genre.
One good experiment is to try using the music (whatever the genre) hymn sandwich style for a while. Stand, sit, sing one song, pray, whatever, but break up the supposed flow. If the song can handle that, chances are its a keeper. But if it ONLY seems to be good if everyone stands for a long time, sings for a long time, and especially if it only is "good" at the end of that time and with dimmed lights, might want to junk it.
Whether it was written in 1560, 1950, or yesterday.
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