I quoted the verse. You may not like the ESV as your preferred English translation, but that is the verse as devised by King James translators who added chapters and verse numbers.
The point is, you have made an unsubstantiated assertion. I'm sure you believe what you say, but you cannot prove your assertion, nor can you say God agrees with you.
There are prophetic verses. But, not every verse is prophetic.
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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Konstantin, Aug 31, 2020.
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"You have spoke falsely, Konstantin. It is you who has the responsibility to prove your claim. I provided a verse. There is no prophecy in that verse."
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This topic is interesting. And I think Konstantin may be on to something, though I am not taking sides at this point. Hasn't anyone here ever read a New Testament quote from the Old, and then wondered how in the world was that prophetic. Or how in the world would anyone have known it was prophetic.
One that comes to mind is (Matt. 2:17-18) quoting (Jer. 31:15). I know I have run across others before but don't remember them now. I will try and find them.
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This prophecy will come true a few days. There will be a rapture of "Church of the first born" (Heb.12:23). Rachel here is the prototype of all the local churches that will remain on earth during the time of tribulation. Children is a sheafe of the first fruits of the harvest (Lev.23:10), or faithful (Rev17:14). -
Types can certainly be prophetic. But then one will base the 'type' on his method of interpretation. So if the method of interpretation is flawed, or different, so will be the type.
You speak of the Rapture and the Tribulation. I hold to these also as yet future events. But, I would disagree as to the churches in (Revelation) representing Rachel. I am Dispensational in doctrine for the most part. I don't mix the Church and Israel. So I would always see 'Rachael weeping for her children' being those of Israel.
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Therefore, God has never claimed that every verse is prophetic. You have no clue what is prophetic. And the specific verse is a list of who fathered who. No prophesy.
Konstantin, every reader can now clearly see you are wrong in that assertion. I wash my sandals. Live in your pride if you must.
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