Of course any nation has the right to try to invade the U.S. However, since we have firmly set the notion of "might makes right" they will fail.
A Young Marine Speaks Out
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dale-c, Dec 30, 2006.
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Probably not huh? Well, check it out tonight virtually all the networks are running the same inaccurate "emphasis" just hours after his death. What a coincidence! :smilewinkgrin: -
And my question still remains to those who say soldiers have no right to question, they just have to follow orders - if it were martial law and soldiers were ordered by the CIC to confiscate your guns & rifles, going door to door, would you still say they were supposed to follow orders and not question? -
He went in in 2004, or 2005.
Republican President and Republican Congress the entire time.
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Our objective hasn't been to be the policeman of the world. It was stated by Bush's advisors to be WORLD SUPREMACY. -
There is a difference between a lawful order and an unlawful order - soldiers have the responsibility to follow lawful orders - without question and without blogging about their pet complaints.
If this is a real Marine, then he is only not punished by the grace of his commanders.
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Carpro wrote:
I don't ever mind standing alone with the truth.
"Trained warriors like clear cut victories and the full support of the people back home.
They have neither."
is a true statement and can stand on it's own. No one is being "blamed" for anything.
It looks like liberals will never learn how to "support the troops". It just totally escapes them for some reason.:BangHead: -
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I would rely on this young marine’s opinions about why we went to war, the legality of this war, etc about as much as I would rely on an entertainer’s opinion. While his service is commendable, he doesn’t have the resources or knowledge to make the call.
If he is bent on serving his country only when he agrees with its politics, the military is no place for him. -
One just can not support the troops without supporting what they are doing. It's like saying you are a Yankees fan and rooting for the other team. -
It’s amazed me that the people displaying the anti-Bush stickers still feel they are supporting their country. (The same was true with the anti-Clinton stickers in the past).
Some people today can’t fathom what it is to support your country, or the troops. They don’t realize that “I support you, but not what you are doing in Iraq” is an insult, and actually think it is a complement. -
Yes you can encourage the troops to fight each battle to attain victory.
Yes you can encourage the troops to follow the commands of their leaders and tell them how proud we are of their willingness to serve during the tough times.
Yes you can encourage the troops to serve with honor and dignity and tell them how proud we are that they are doing so.
Yes you can tell the troops that we are praying for them and their families.
Yes we can actually support the needs of our troops by supplying them with basic necesssities such as tooth paste soap etc. so that they can send fulller portions of their paychecks back home
Meanwhile back home at the Capital we can be voices and critisize our Govenrment for there lack of planning and resolve to put an end to this debacle. Politicians make very lousy commanders and should do a better job of listening to our Generals who have actually had experience with matters of war. Our Great Decider who resides in the White House doesn't have the qualities of leadership, he just doesn't listen very well and only hears what he wants to hear. But neo-cons would prefer for it's U.S citizens to be quiet when it comes matters of disagreement with their policies. -
"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else." - Teddy Roosevelt [Emphasis mine] (Source: http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/quotes.htm)
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Right or wrong? I think we were right in going to war with Iraq. I guess you don't. It doesn't really matter to me. Voice your opinion, but respect the elected official’s position. I was not too fond of Clinton, but I respected his office and the position he held as elected by the nation. Clinton was probably one of the most damaging presidents to the military, but he had the loyalty of the military.
There is a difference between not supporting the President’s position in Iraq and not supporting the President. There is also a difference in not feeling that we should be at war with Iraq, doubting the reasons we went to war, and not supporting the war. -
There seems to be hope yet, but then I already knew you had more sense than the typical liberal.:) -
If Clinton had the loyalty of the military it was begrudgingly. there were instances of active soldiers calling in to right wing talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh criticizing Clinton for his lack of leadership in regards to military action.
I respect our troops for their valiant service to our country and I do support them despite what anyone might say to the contrary. I also respect the office to the Presidency but as with Clinton I am deeply dissapointed in both Presidents for dividing our Country . I never voted for Clinton but the man I did vote for on both occassions has disgraced the Office of the Presidency just as Clinton did. -
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Originally Posted by carpro
Carpro wrote:
They already know. Durbin, Kerry, Kennedy, et al are all on record with their opinion of the troops and their efforts.
It looks like liberals will never learn how to "support the troops". It just totally escapes them for some reason.:BangHead:
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Haven't heard a Hannity broadcast in about a year. Is he using some of my material again? -
You have done better on your retorts to me in the past, this wasn't one of your shinning moments though but I am confidant that you will get back in form again.
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