Abortion Clinic in Florida Facing Charges

dis⋅gust⋅ing [dis-guhs-ting, di-skuhs-] –adjective: causing disgust; offensive to the physical, moral, or aesthetic taste.

Thinking that a mother has no power to protect their child disgusts me. It is offensive to me.

 

Pehaps, but the real issue is being obscured by the circumstances of this case, and Gina did well to remind us of it.

 

Your false disgust is most likely based on you refusal to admit your original argument was flawed. Rather than a sincere concern.

 

Actually she misrepresented the situation:

Once the baby is delivered the "abortion" is over and the child should be given every reasonable opportunity and assistance to live. To continue to dismiss the child is irresponsible.

 

So now you judge whether my disgust at something is real disgust or false disgust? And whether I am sincere? How about your wife? You needed to use her opinion before to say that I was wrong, does she also believe that my disgust is false? :laugh:

If you think my original argument is flawed, why don't you stick to explaining how it is flawed rather than attempting to discern my thoughts and feelings on things? I could do a lot of assuming about you as well, but it would be very becoming of me (or you for that matter).

 

Maybe you should stick to the facts about this mother rather than trying to discern her thoughts and intentions you cannot know.

 

I can agree with you on that.

FACT: Mother went to a "clinic" to murder her child.
FACT: Mother gave birth to child in that "clinic".
FACT: Mother did absolutely nothing to stop "clinic" worker from murdering her child.

CONCLUSION: Mother is an accomplice to murder.

Yup..the facts speak for themselves.

Are any of those not facts? Don't bring up the "change of heart" thing. That's not a fact. There is no evidence to support that. If the woman would have attempted to stop the murder of her child then that could be admitted as evidence, but as it stands there is no evidence to support the "change of heart".

 

I did not say she had a change of heart. I said you cannot know that she did not. You weren't there, you do not know all the facts and most certainly you do not know if she is just looking for a law suit. I merely offered suggestions as to why it is possible to not have that motive.

It is just as likely that she had a change of heart and it is unlikely that she had the physical ability to immediately get up off the table after just giving birth. Especially with the nurse rushing the child to a bio bag.

 

Again, where is the evidence for a change of heart? The baby was out of the womb and the mother watched the baby for 5 minutes before the owner (not a nurse) did anything to the child. For 5 minutes this mother just sat there and didn't attempt to pick up her child, tell anyone that the child was there and alive, or tell anyone that she didn't want to go through with this. Then after 5 minutes she didn't raise a single objection to the owner murdering her child.

So, no I do not believe it is "just as likely she had a change of heart" when there is absolutely no evidence to support that and plenty of evidence to support the contrary.

 

You said "And it is not surprising that the mother would have a change in heart once she sees the child born. And it is absurd to deny such." Sounds to me that you are saying she had a change of heart. You are also saying that it is absurb if someone believes that she wouldn't have a change of heart.

 

No problem with that statement. Neither is it an assertion of fact. It is absurd to deny, as you did, that it could not have happened.

 

Killing a child after a live birth is not legal. therefore, murder has been committed and someone needs to go to prison.

 

I was at each of my 3 grandchildren's birth, other then the doctor I was the first person to see each of their little faces, let me tell you, their mother would have fought tooth and nail to the death with ounce of energy she had to protect her children, even immediately after birth. I was there, I saw her.
the difference here is that this mother in the story didn't want her child, wanted her child dead. Not sure we need any speculation at all, she went to an abortion clinic to have her child murdered and thats what she did. Thats what an abortion clinic is for.

outright murder. no other arguement really matters.

 

Exactly. You're the only one so far on any message board who seemed to understand what I was trying to convey.

 

I agree. I think it is stupid that we even have to debate over whether or not a child is considered human before or after he/she has been born. I think prison is too good for the doctor. The mother needs to be tried as an accomplice.

 

Absolutely right.