I feel uncertain interpreting how the bible instructs Christians to behave in regards to alcohol. All my advisers besides my mother seem to take a stance apart from mine, and I'd like to hear more arguments and read from trusted resources y'all may be able to advise.
I have only been 21 for half a year and have little experience with this being a present issue.
It is my understanding that all instructions against drunkenness apply to any consumption of alcohol,
because I cannot perceive a distinction between being influenced at any level by alcohol and drunkenness. If I drink alcohol with the knowledge of its influence aren't I allowing influence of a spirit other than the Holy Spirit? (as in Ephesians 5:18)
I have heard this understanding referred to as "prohibition" as opposed to "abstinence" or "moderation".
Apart from the drinking of the individual, is the christian to go to a bar at all? It is my understanding that "banquetings" of 1 peter 4 are any event organized for the purpose of drinking. If drinking in moderation is instead correct, is banqueting only events where people are getting "drunk"?
Again assuming drinking in moderation is permissible, should the Christian drink "strong drink" in moderation? What does "strong drink" mean, in relation to other alcoholic drinks?
Thank you
Alcohol, Drunkenness and Banquetings
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Jeremy Seth, Aug 9, 2016.
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Jordan Kurecki Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Nothing good usually takes place where people are gathering to drink alcohol. Bars and the like are dens of Devils.
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Jeremy Seth- If you doubt, abstain.
Biblical arguments aside, you may be better off without it any way. Alcohol is a toxin. -
Drinking in moderation vs. drunkenness is like eating in moderation vs. gluttony. Or driving at moderate speeds vs. dangerous speeds. Or, anything done in moderation vs. excess.
"Strong drink" is alcohol other than wine. -
Though I agree with Smyth - I have always said "I have never met a drunk who doesent drink"
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Jordan Kurecki Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I think people ignore the destructive nature of alcohol..
I mean...if drinking alcohol in moderation is ok....would smoking pot in moderation also be ok? (Putting aside the secular legality of it aside) -
There are three types of drink mentioned in the bible. Beer. Wine. Strong drink.
Beer is self explanatory. Wine refers to mixed wine. Wine mixed with water at 4 or 5 parts water to one part wine. The reason was two-fold. 1) to avoid drunkenness and 2) the alcohol in the wine killed the amoeba in the water.
Strong drink refers to unmixed wine. -
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Strong drink is simply any alcoholic drink. When John the Baptist wasn't suppose to drink wine or strong drink, does that mean beer was okay for John the Baptist? -
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Biblically, the standard is impairment/loss of control. If you lose control of your body, your tongue, your mental faculties, etc., then you are "drunk."
Legally, the standard is usually based on the blood alcohol level and it closely associated with the ability to drive or operate modern heavy machinery.
From a biblical perspective, a person can be legally intoxicated, but not drunk according to the standards of the scripture. -
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Since you don't get drunk from your hard lemonade, why not just have pure lemonade? Is the malt liquor they add really tasty or what?
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