In the book I am currently reading the author made the statement that the Pope is not perfect, faultless, or sinless, but no Pope in the history of Popes has ever taught Heresy.
Obviously many on here disagree with that. I'm looking for verifiable examples that I can research. I'm trying to get it settled in my own mind once and for all as to who is teaching truth. The Catholic Church or Protestants.
Another Catholic question- Pope
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by milby, May 30, 2012.
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The various Inquistions were set up where those who disagreed with the doctrine of the RCC were horribly tortured until they recanted their faith in Christ, and submitted to the pope.
If you read the older commentaries, like Albert Barnes, Jameison Faucett and Brown, Matthew Henry, etc. (all easily obtainable on the internet), they will all equate the Catholic Church with the antichrist or false prophet of Revelation 17.
Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Revelation 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
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As an Eastern Orthodox Christian, I cannot accept such beliefs because these ideals were never part of the early Church. Early Christian bishops, including Eastern Orthodox ones, have always utilized a consensus of opinions and spiritual authority, usually by council or synod. It is this wider perspective of decision making that is considered infallible due only in part by the guidance of the Holy Spirit as promised by Christ Himself regarding matters of doctrine and absolute authority.
Then, once the councils agree, the Church has to accept it…Look no further than the Russian Orthodox Church during Communism…The Russian government did everything in their power to address and adjust the Russian Church so they could control her bishops, priests and people…but nothing was accepted that was contrary to what was already firmly in place and held fast by the Church…and thousands of people perished because of their faith…bishops, priests and Christians all were imprisoned or murdered…
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The Bible has 66 books, written by about 40 different authors over a span of 1500 years, all perfectly in harmony one with another speaking of redemption through Jesus Christ. Within its pages are no contradictions, and each page is inspired by the Holy Spirit of God.
The hand of the Holy Spirit is not a dangerous proposition.
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“The Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra, is, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrines of faith and morals.”
Doctrines are considered infallible when issued by the pope in his own name according to the conditions required for ex cathedra teaching (within the official discharge of his office). -
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THIS ought to open your eyes about the RCC. It's worth the time to watch all of it.
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http://www.watch-unto-prayer.org/TR-13-albigenses-cathari.html
Though you may not like the original source, he has far more historical references than your biased Catholic.
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These incidents occurred because at that time the Church had authority over the civil government. Like Sharia Law. Like Christian Reconstructionists want to impose on the entire world.
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However, that is precisely why I choose to view secular church history from the perspective of inspired prophetic scriptures. God's word is inspired (2 Tim. 3:16). The writers are not biased (1 Pet. 1:20-21).
1. False religion is clearly predicted to rise - 1 Tim. 4:1-5; Mt. 24:24-25; etc.
2. False religion is clearly characterized:
a. False religion persecutes, slanders, murders other professed Christians - Jn. 16;1-4; Mt. 5:10-13; Rev. 17:5.
b. False religion is characterized by prominent false doctrines - Gal. 1:8-9; 1 Tim. 4:1-5; 1 Jn. 4:1-6;
3. True Biblical religion is in the minority and decreasing as the age ends
a. "little flock"
b. "hid" among the tares - Mt. 13
c. "few be that find it" - Mt. 7:13-14
d. "Shall I find faith" - Lk. 18:8
Rome along with many others fits every single characteristic of false religion. And if Rome fits every single characteristic of false religion then the "few" and "the little flock" must be among whom they persecuted and killed throughout the centuries - Just that simple! -
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http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/12965/Albigenses -
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