Are certain political views sinful?

I've got to interject. Revmitchell is not a pacifist. I have met him in real life. I don't know if he disagrees with my post, which will lead to a discussion if he does. However, let's keep things respectful.

 

Your concern is how I vote? This is my point exactly. Your focus is all wrong. You put your trust in politicians. You speak of all the good that government and politicians have done. Very little mention of God's mercy in bringing sinners to salvation. And then you complain your politicians, your government, fails to stop the the slaughter of babies in the womb.

Peace to you

 

Yea I don't wish people to be slaughtered. I'ma pacifist. Good grief

 

I normally vote for the lesser of two evils. The party with the least amount of innocent blood on their hands usually gets my vote. It's getting to the place where it's hard to call.

 

I say that involvement with politics is not something that a believer should even bother with, given these commands:

" Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of [this] life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier." ( 2 Timothy 2:3-4 )

" Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 and what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 and what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
18 and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." ( 2 Corinthians 6:17 ).

"Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." ( 1 John 2:15 )

With the above stated, I stopped voting years ago due to being clearly outnumbered.
I also now see that my vote for God's ways really makes no difference, as most people aren't ruled, in their consciences, like God's children are.

The saving grace in all of it is that if God wants a nation to go a certain way, He will raise up politicians that will make and enforce laws that keep the peace and that ultimately results in what He wants, being done.
Since most of mankind is at enmity with Him ( except those of us that are saved ), my own personal conviction is to stay out of their way, pray that God's will be done and for the leaders of my nation, and leave the rest to Him.



However, if any of you feel led to stand against something, then do so.
I can only tell you why I don't get involved anymore, and it has to do with separation.

 

I disagree but to be honest I'm beginning to develop your attitude.

 

If you align politically, you alienate many you should be trying to reach for Christ. You also misrepresent Christ.

 

Again, I see it as a question of numbers.

Since God's children are outnumbered by default, what makes you think that the majority of mankind can truly be influenced for good by using their methods to persuade them?

Me being on the sidelines makes absolutely no difference in the final outcome.
That's why I disagree with this statement:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. " - Edmund Burke.


God's will, on the other hand, can influence many things...even evil men's hearts and desires, should He so choose ( Genesis 6:20, Revelation 17:17 ).
Therefore, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for God to do nothing.

 

A Christian's testimony does not lead to another person's salvation.

I agree.
That's why I stated the above.

I agree.
On the flip side, doing something moral will get one no closer to an unbeliever, either.

That's why I don't believe in "lifestyle evangelism".

 

As I stated earlier, it is shameful to attack brothers and sisters in Christ because of politics.

You accuse them of "doing nothing" because they don't believe engaging in politics is the right course. You accuse them of not understanding God's Word or His sovereignty because they believe involvement in politics takes our focus off Christian ministry.

The radical liberal leftists agree with you that the way to spread your beliefs and influence is through the force of the federal government.

Peace to you

 

But visible party affiliation misrepresents Christ. And there's much more innocent blood being shed by both parties than by abortion alone.