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Featured Are forms other than Calvinism & Arminanism debate form to be C & A debate?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by 37818, Nov 19, 2022.

  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    Well, what are or what should the rules on this to be. There are third views.
     
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    I will recommend
    that the Admin team discuss
     
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    I thought you already had the rules in place. I saw several years ago an admin post something to the effect of "Calvinism nor Arminianism can be mentioned outside the C vs A forum." I can't swear to it, but I am quite sure it was Cassidy.
     
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    You're probably right in your recollection. The fact is when discussing/debating doctrine it can often (and I do mean often) unintentionally morph into C vs A. There was a time when the mods would move a thread (usually upon request) to the C vs A Forum when the thread subject changed, which is extra work for them. So, I'm for letting the mods determine how they wish to handle it.
     
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    Typically the C vs A was very loosely defined. Many who hold neither position have argued in the section. But the title seems to indicate a common error - that those are the only two views out there.

    Perhaps it should be called something else. "Calvinism vs Everybody Else" comes to mind :Biggrin
     
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  6. JonC

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    Yep. Often posts end up there.

    That said, if they are reported the thread....or posts....can be moved to the appropriate forum.

    I think we (staff) could do a better job at looking put for such thread drift. But also it'd help if yall could report when it happens.
     
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    'Monergism vs Synergism' would be more correct (and inclusive, or less exclusive), I think.
     
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    There are a lot of cults in the camp... :Cool
     
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    ...bigots and religionists too.
     
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    Or simply Soteriology?
     
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  11. JonC

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    True....even within Calvinism there are distinct views.
     
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    Indeed. Especially within preterism.
     
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    The major problem of false accusations. Accusations of not actually being made by the opposing views
     
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    C vs A gives an illusion that, "A"*,
    could possibly be valid,
    or God Forbid, "as valid",
    as The Doctrines of Grace,

    which are a small portion
    of the Manifold Wisdom
    and Whole Counsel of God,

    THE FAITH once delivered to the saints/
    at I hold to these points of Calvinism (by the number of)

    *"A" denies the Adamic sin Imputed to all of Adam's posterity leaves them Totally Depraved,
    when Salvation involves being Convicted of being Totally Depraved, to start with.

    I didn't say they were lost.

    I say that a person should know
    or be able to be Taught How they Were Saved,
    (from Totally Depravity) if they are Saved.
     
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    What's the "*"?
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Yep. There is Calvinism* and Arminianism*. But there are also quite a few positions that are neither.

    That's why I think simply having a "Soteriology" section may be a good idea.
     
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    Romans 5:13, ". . . For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. . . "
     
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    Romans 3:20; "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
     
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    That's called the "Other Christian Denominations" thread.
    The basic difference is synergism vs monergism.
     
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