"Satan and his angels in their original creation; the devil, our Lord says, "abode not in the truth", #Joh 8:44 which implies that he had been in the truth, though he continued not in it; in his allegiance and fidelity to God his creator; in his integrity, purity, and holiness, as a creature of veracity;
but framing lies, he became the father of them.
What he was in, but abode not in, is the "first estate", of integrity, innocence, and happiness, in which he was created, but kept it not, #Jude 1:6.
Satan and his fallen Angels, along with Mankind, "abode not", in their, "first estate".
They were Created, by God, and fell.
"I Creat evil".
God Created Creatures that sinned against Him.
God Did not sin. He can not.
Saved souls can be Taught that.
God Created and His Creation became Evil.
God's Creation, who fell, sinned.
The issue with Satan and His Angels, with regard to Predestination is that NONE of them were Predestined to Salvation.
In that same respect, NONE of MANKIND, YOU & I, NOR OUR GRANNY, COULD HAVE BEEN PREDESTINED to SALVATION.
WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THAT?
"Leaving us to Go to Hell?"
That is what God has done to some, to make His Glory known.
Lost people DO..NOT..LIKE..THAT.."GOD"...
Are There Any Verses That Show Predestination to Hell?
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Steven Yeadon, Sep 18, 2020.
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Meh, @Reynolds is just grumpy because fellow synergists aren't as Arminian as he would like and monergists don't tend to be Arminian. Therefore it's lonely in his world.
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I think something that gets me is that I was the token wicked scoffers of the Bible five years ago. I mean, don't you remember a period of impossible wickedness followed by faith, the Holy Spirit coming upon you and a forever changed life due to the Gospel?
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