Yes. That passage, however, does not speak directly to the matter of the relationship between Satan and unbelievers, etc.
Are Unbelievers Free Agents Who Do Their Own Will Whenever They Want?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Scripture More Accurately, Mar 28, 2021.
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Yes, they do their own will.
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No, they are under the authority of the devil and do his will unless God intervenes
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Sometimes they do their own will and sometimes they do the devil's will
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Just as in the parable of the sower, there were good and bad soils for the steel of the word of God to take root in ... so the “debased mind” of the later state of those in Romans 1 is a very fertile soil for Satan and his authority to take root in. -
" wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." ( Ephesians 2:2-3 ).
" This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness." ( Ephesians 4:17-19 ). -
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Paul says in Romans “Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?” Romans 9:21 (KJV 1900)
This suggests that God directly controls all choices of all people, good and bad. -
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“And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.” 1 Kings 22:20–23 (KJV 1900)
Why pray "lead us not into temptation"? if God does not do this? -
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@1689Dave
Could I ask what church you attend?
(Not the exact church, but the 'flavor' of Baptist)
I only ask because your views are clearly NOT the traditional "Southern Baptist" understanding and I was wondering if they are typical of some other group of Baptists. -
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