RockRambler can you answer this question?
Army Raises Recruitment Age-Again
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by RockRambler, Jan 18, 2006.
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They seem to blur and morph into one when I read their posts.
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Failure to defend yourself (war) doesn't mean the enemy will stop attacking.
If a kid gets beaten by a bully every day on the way to school, does he have "peace" because he doesn't fight back? NO. He has peace when he convinces the bully that the costs are too high. -
Sometimes war is necessary to secure the peace. Only an idiot thinks we can not fight the Islamic terrorists and have peace now or in the future. They have been at war with us since Carter.
BTW, I gave my 7 years in the Reserves and would have gone to Gulf War I in spite of my suspicions about Bush 1 if I had been called up. My dad fought in a meaningless liberal war in Korea. That Dem fired a general for daring to propose that we attempt to win the war and free a people that have subsequently been subjected to 50 years of horrid abuse... yeah, that's the kind of "peace" liberals support.
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LBJ engaged in a war where he tied the military's hands and attempted to micromanage the war from Washington. Bush has given the theater commanders a mission and secured the resources they've asked for.
LBJ fought a war where the goal was stalemate. At any point, that war could have been concluded by a deliberate offensive toward Hanoi that forced the N Vietnamese to put their army in front of ours... like what Grant did to Lee to end the Civil War.
Bush's commanders won the war in a matter of weeks. They are now conducting operations against foreign criminals... not soldiers, not primarily Iraqi nationals. The criminal casualties are several times higher than ours. They are engaged in a battle that can only be won with the help of liberal naysayers like YOU. -
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Maybe a better question would be, "If you support the war, and you're of enlistment age, why don't you enlist? And if you're not enlistment age, but support the war, why don't you encourage your sons of enlistment age to join the war?" -
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I suspect that my sons would enlist... but they're only 11 and 12. Do you want them RR to satisfy your blood lust for my daring to disagree with you about this action?
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Scott J...re-read the question...it clearly states,
"If....of enlistment age".
I don't think anyone would consider 11 & 12 of enlistment age. -
You know what's kind of interesting about all this? You'd think that we'd just experienced a Gettysburg or something from the drama these anti-war folks engage in.
I honor each sacrifice and wouldn't diminish the tragedy of even one casualty... but historically speaking, this operation has very successfully minimized US casualties.
Some Civil War battles saw the whole population of able bodied men from some towns wiped out in a day... now that would be worthy of the cries of woe we hear now from the naysayers... and each of those Civil War casualties were the direct result of the "war" resolve and leadership of a man who never served in the military. -
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webdog..you asked if one supported the preaching of the Gospel should they become a pastor...its not necessary to become a pastor to support preaching the gospel, as we all preach the gospel by the Christian life we lead.
If the American way of life is truly at risk, wouldn't it be irresponsible for you not to do your part and protect your family? I have two sons in the Marines right now, one in Iraq, that both have children less than 5 months old. The one in Iraq had three children, 3 months, 2 yrs, and 3yrs old.
"I'd enlist, but I have a wife and newborn at home", sounds like a typical chickenhawk excuse. -
Scott J...I'm sure a fine pro-war supporter like yourself though is encouraging all the men in your family of enlistment age to join the war effort.
And yes, I think there is a little bit of moral hypocrisy going on when a person is pro-war then stays at home even though they are of enlistment age. -
If these "hypocrites" you imagine were told they were needed, I suspect that many of them would go. I am 41. If they get down to needing an old fat guy... then I'll get in line. Otherwise, I already offered myself for the military's disposal for 7 years... it isn't my fault they didn't send me to combat nor do I feel guilty that they didn't while supporting the decision to send others.
Certainly those who are enlisting now are under no delusions about the military being a social program like they were before... especially before the first Gulf action. Moreover, it is quite likely that some are joining specifically because they do believe in what we are doing.
In addition to the Pastor question, what about missionaries. Isn't it hypocritical of you to support missionaries... knowing the dangers they face... but not volunteering yourself? -
I thank your children for the service to our country; it is greatly appreciated and highly respected.
Before I assume your political views since I am not familiar with you as a poster let me ask…Do you support the war?
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