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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Nov 25, 2021.

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  1. 1689Dave

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    Lot's of false doctrine on Got Questions going way back.
     
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    You aren’t teaching the amillennialist position. Amillennialism teaches that the millennium, the 1,000 years mentioned six times in Revelation 20:1-7, is symbolic of an extended period of time and not to be taken as a literal 1,000 years. All four eschatological systems address this passage as the millennium, but two view it literally(premillennialism, both Dispensationial and Historic) and two view it symbolically(postmillennialism and amillenialism).
     
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    IIRC, they are pre-trib, but I could be wrong.
     
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    A-millennialism = NO Millennium. You are teaching millennialism. Jesus did not. Why work promoting Pharisaic ideas when scripture NEVER mentions a millennium?
     
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    You’re not teaching the amillennial view. I’ve provided you with quotes and links to show you what it teaches, yet you persist in error.
     
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    Jesus taught Amillennialism. That's what I teach. You teach the Catholic, Lutheran, And Reformed views. You need to mirror what Jesus says.
     
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    What you are teaching is not Amillennialism and certainly not what Jesus taught. @Martin Marprelate is Amill, so ask him who has the correct view.

    The kingdom of God is here now, and it is here in time. Time is the millennium, which is symbolic. It’s not to be taken as a literal, future 1,000 year reign of Christ, as Christ is ruling now.
     
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    From Wikipedia…


    Amillennialism rejects the idea of a future millennium in which Christ will reign on earth prior to the eternal state beginning, but holds:[4]

    • that Jesus is presently reigning from heaven, seated at the right hand of God the Father,
    • that Jesus also is and will remain with the church until the end of the world, as he promised at the Ascension,
    • that at Pentecost (or days earlier, at the Ascension), the millennium began, citing Acts 2:16-21, where Peter quotes Joel 2:28-32 on the coming of the kingdom, to explain what is happening,
    • and that, therefore the Church and its spread of the good news is indeed Christ's Kingdom and forever will be.
     
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    Duration of the Millennium
    Amillennialists believe that the millennium is a heavenly rule inaugurated at the death and resurrection of Christ and concluding at his return. The thousand-year span given in Revelation 20:1-10 is not a literal thousand years. Rather it symbolizes a long period. It represents the entire church age from the cross to the second coming.

    What is Amillennialism?
     
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    Amillennialism (Greek: a- "not" + Latin: mille "thousand" + annum "year") is a view in Christian eschatology named for its denial of a future thousand-year, physical reign of Jesus Christ on earth, as espoused in the premillennial and some postmillennial views of the Book of Revelation. By contrast, the amillennial view holds that the number of years in Revelation 20 is a symbolic number, not a literal description; that the millennium has already begun and is identical with the church age; and that while Christ's reign is spiritual in nature during the millennium, at the end of the church age Christ will return for the final judgment and the eternal order.


    Amillennialism - New World Encyclopedia
     
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    Amillennialism. This third view is that Christ’s millennial kingdom extends from His Resurrection from the tomb to the time of His Second Coming on the clouds at the end of this age, when He comes to an unconverted world to judge the living and the dead in one great resurrection of the righteous and the wicked. The judgment of the sheep and the goats and the great white throne judgment are identical, followed by the eternal kingdom of God. The millennial kingdom of Christ is therefore now, both in heaven and on earth. On earth, Christ’s kingdom “is not of this world,” but He reigns esp. in the hearts of His people on earth, and in heaven over the hosts of the redeemed and His holy angels for a “thousand years,” the perfect, complete time between the two comings of Christ. It is held that the “binding of Satan” for the thousand years (Rev 20:2) took place, either during His earthly ministry (Matt 12:29) or at His Resurrection from the dead, and that it particularly concerns the inability of Satan to deceive the nations nationally (Rev 20:2, 3) as he did before the first coming of Christ. At the end of this present age, Satan is to be released from that restriction for a time, and he will again be permitted to deceive the nations for a short period, until Christ comes down and defeats him at the battle of Armageddon (Rev 19:19; 20:8).


    Amillennialism - Encyclopedia of The Bible - Bible Gateway
     
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    Contrary to what the name (Amillennialism) implies, AMs do believe in a millennium. The millennium, however, is now: the present age of the church between the first and second comings of Christ in its entirety is the millennium. Therefore, while the AM does deny the Premillennial belief in a personal, literal reign of Christ upon the earth for 1,000 years following His second coming, he affirms that there is a millennium and that Christ rules. However, this messianic reign is not necessarily for a literal 1,000 years and it is wholly spiritual (non-earthly, non-visible) in nature. “This millennial reign is not something to be looked for in the future;” writes Hoekema, “it is going on now, and will be until Christ returns. Hence the term realized millennialismis an apt description of the view here defended--if it is remembered that the millennium in question is not an earthly but a heavenly reign,” (The Bible and the Future, pg 235)

    The Amillennial View of the Kingdom of God
     
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    The term amillennialism literally means “no millennium,” since the prefix “a” (that is, "alpha" in Greek) negates the term that it precedes. Yet amillennialists don't adhere to the non-existence of a millennium, they just believe that it 's not a literal 1,000-year period.

    Amillennialism emphasizes New Testament passages that call the time immediately following the resurrection of Christ the “last days.” To the amillennialist, this means that the millennium began with Christ and although the phrase “last days” seemingly conveys a short period of time, it apparently means more than 2,000 years since Christ has not yet returned. The amillennialist suggests the phrase refers to the final era of history.

    Amillennialism - ReligionFacts
     
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    The term millennium comes from the Latin word for 1000.
     
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    Well, I’m done with him. I’ve given him ample evidence of what Amillennialism teaches and it does not align itself with what he believes.
     
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    This thread is not about that.Start a thread about your ideas as you have not responded to anything on this thread.
     
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    Yes you have.
    His M.O. is to take part of the truth...mix it with novelty and error...then insist it alone is right.
     
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    And that is the point of difference from Pre-Millennialsm. Revelation 20:2-6.
     
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    Amillennialism = No Millennium. Scripture does not even mention a Millennium. Jesus taught the purest form of Amillennialism there is. All of the "Amillennial Churches" teach a corrupted view based on denominational churchism that does not exist in scripture.
     
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    I'm not speaking about assorted eschatological teaching being wrong for the most part? And comparing it to the truth?
     
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