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The trouble with that view is the context does not support it. Christ just got through demanding the impossible, i.e., moral perfection, just prior to making that statement. He meant perfect.

 

That's the whole point of the law and Christ's exposition of it in the Sermon on the Mount. You can't. I can't get up out of this chair and walk out of the room without sinning.

24 Wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me out of the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I of myself with the mind, indeed, serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Ro 7

 

Let’s take a hard look at this shall we. In the next 130 days I will have the opportunity to get into the legal pot distribution business. If I do that, that move will provide my family a much better quality of life. Upon hearing this, my younger brother (a former youth pastor) flipped, he told me that that would be tad amount to a moral crime and I disagree. Both he and I can disagree and that’s fine but I’m not going to allow him to apply his sense of right and wrong to influence me. My brothers morality is arbitrarily. What’s more it is irrational. Washington State, Colorado and Massachusetts all have it legal and the state is receiving a good ROI with legal tax revenues

 

How bout this one... my girlfriend at the time, her family at the time owned and operated several strip bars in nyc. If I did marry this woman, the family suggested they would bring me into the business. I will never forget the laughs I got when I asked about the morality of using these girls. Here was the answer I received, “ Nobody’s putting a gun to their heads... besides they make good money,” and if that was the only concern, perhaps I would but that was just the tip of the iceberg so I declined.

 

Glenn,I consider you both a friend and brother. I’ve benefited by your advice.
Thank you

 

The church also needs to disciple people and send them back out to spread the good news. I sincerely hope they don’t require perfection cause you ain’t a gonna find it.

 

This is not the statement or heart of a believer EWF. Sorry...no other way to say this....can you show anyone who says such things in scripture???

God must allow you to sin as you please??? really

 

Sure, did you ever observe David? He sinned then repented, sinned then repented. It was a particular pattern with him. I’m not saying I am David, I don’t have his lusts, his appetite to sin however if the opportunity to enrich my family so they could be better off in this world, I might just take it... and I will view it as an opportunity not a sin. I have shown you two synarios the world presented themselves one I did not take, that to me was scummy so I passed that then ruined my planned marriage. But that is the way some people live ... setting up cash businesses, laundering money, appealing to the lusts of men and the world rewards them... I have never done that, choosing instead to work an honest living, being totally ruined in the last recession and having to start all over in 2008. That’s hard when your older. The hardships are more then doubled when people become ill & you know that from your own experiences my friend.

Now a guy like your current president would call me a looser, Because I did not take advantage... this is what the world shows you, that proberty has no merit, that the ones who get ahead are the ones willing to cross the line, game the system, bend or even break the rules... they become preeminent while we remain obscure. Tony my brother, no more.

 

WOW! That's a whole lot of anti-Scriptural sentiment in one line. I can't understand how you value the Bible and yet hold to such base ideas.

And you profess to appreciate the works of DML-J to top it off. I can't see any growth in spiritual matters as you express them on the BB.

 

Mind your own business.

 

I agree with EWF on this one Iconoclast. Not so much that He (God) MUST allow but what He DOES allow - look:

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

This passage proves that our Father has left it up to us as an exercise of our will to chose sin or not to sin.
He also has given us Jesus Christ as our advocate (lawyer) to represent us in the court of heaven when we do sin.

and

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

We are given these verses of forgiveness to bring us back to our feet when we fall.

Most sin in our lives is of such a nature that we would if we could push a button that would cease the temptation.

Some is outright rebellion for which we will go to the woodshed (unless we are illegitimate).

EWF must make up his own mind (as we all should) as to the "quality" of adoration and worship of God we desire to bring into the holy of holies made accessible to all of us by the vicarious blood atonement of Jesus Christ.

Each of us will at the end of the day present ourselves at the Bema seat and give an account of the deeds done in the body.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Gold, silver and precious gems or wood, hay and stubble?
We are free to chose.


HankD

 

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