C.S. Murphy
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Someone made a comment on another thread about this, asking for Biblical condemnation of the practice so I thought it might make an interesting thread. What does the Word say about this?
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Bi-racial marriage
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Being bi-racial and having my family experience open racism, from christians no less, pretty easy to figure out my opinion. Racism is a topic that is not talked about enough because of the political craziness that swarms around the topic. But it is alive and kicking in MOST churches from border to border
Daniel David
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Optional, Miriam was struck with leprosy because she went against God's appointed leader. She tried to use the marriage issue.
Optional said:
It says it existed. Moses for one. Miriam was stricken with leprosy because of her racism about it.
Not so. After Num. 12:1, Moses' Ethiopian wife is not mentioned again with respect to this event. Miram and Aaron's real beef was with Moses' authority, as verse 2 says. His wife was merely an excuse.
It says it existed. Moses for one. Miriam was stricken with leprosy because of her racism about it.
Not so. After Num. 12:1, Moses' Ethiopian wife is not mentioned again with respect to this event. Miram and Aaron's real beef was with Moses' authority, as verse 2 says. His wife was merely an excuse.
Bi-racialism is subjective. Right now, bi racial could be someone who's half white, half asian.
Two hundred years ago, a biracial person could have been half swedish and half italian. That wouldn't be considered bi-racial today.
Likewise, an individual who is half native american indian and half korean would be considered biracial, thought even though native americans and koreans are both asian in origin.
Two hundred years ago, a biracial person could have been half swedish and half italian. That wouldn't be considered bi-racial today.
Likewise, an individual who is half native american indian and half korean would be considered biracial, thought even though native americans and koreans are both asian in origin.
Daniel David
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Race in and of itself is not an issue here. If someone is rascist, they need to embrace Christ.
The issue of this thread is whether it is right for a person of one race to marry someone of another race. Obviously, this is about heterosexuality. I only include racial distinctions for the sake of the progress of the discussion. Everyone should know what I am talking about. I personally believe that only one race exists - the human race.
The issue of this thread is whether it is right for a person of one race to marry someone of another race. Obviously, this is about heterosexuality. I only include racial distinctions for the sake of the progress of the discussion. Everyone should know what I am talking about. I personally believe that only one race exists - the human race.
I agree that Miriam was crossing God's authority and the marriage was an excuse. However, couldn't it be two-pronged? BTW, just because she isn't mentioned again - does this mean you think God was against the marriage? The fact that God didn't punish Moses for his black wife is clear enough.
I would like to see scriptural support against bi-racial marriages, because I don't see that it exists.
I would like to see scriptural support against bi-racial marriages, because I don't see that it exists.
Optional asked:
BTW, just because she isn't mentioned again - does this mean you think God was against the marriage?
Since the ethicity of Moses' wife never comes up again, and since God never mentions it in his judgment against Miriam, that means I think it was not the issue.
God never specifically approves or condemns interracial marriage in the Scriptures. I take silence as assent; it is not at issue, Biblically speaking.
[ September 16, 2002, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Ransom ]
BTW, just because she isn't mentioned again - does this mean you think God was against the marriage?
Since the ethicity of Moses' wife never comes up again, and since God never mentions it in his judgment against Miriam, that means I think it was not the issue.
God never specifically approves or condemns interracial marriage in the Scriptures. I take silence as assent; it is not at issue, Biblically speaking.
[ September 16, 2002, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Ransom ]
Well, Joseph married an Egyptian. Does that count? 
I personally believe bi-racial marriages are wrong. But I know people and have friends who are either bi-racial or in a bi-racial marriage. So don't throw the bigot label on me because I believe it is wrong. (BTW I have American Indian in my Irish/Scottish/English pedigree.)
Many times, children of bi-racial marriages are the ones to suffer, because they aren't accepted by either race.
I personally believe bi-racial marriages are wrong. But I know people and have friends who are either bi-racial or in a bi-racial marriage. So don't throw the bigot label on me because I believe it is wrong. (BTW I have American Indian in my Irish/Scottish/English pedigree.)
Many times, children of bi-racial marriages are the ones to suffer, because they aren't accepted by either race.
I personally believe bi-racial marriages are wrong...Many times, children of bi-racial marriages are the ones to suffer...
There's nothing biblically wrong with a person marrying a person whose hair, eyes, nose, feet, etc, are different than theirs. biracial persons generally suffer because of the bigotry of others. That doesn't make such a union wrong. It makes those who taunt the union wrong.
There's only one race, the human race. Therefore, anyone we marry who's human is within our race.
There's nothing biblically wrong with a person marrying a person whose hair, eyes, nose, feet, etc, are different than theirs. biracial persons generally suffer because of the bigotry of others. That doesn't make such a union wrong. It makes those who taunt the union wrong.
There's only one race, the human race. Therefore, anyone we marry who's human is within our race.
There is one race. It's called the human race. Population group features are not the results of being different kinds of human beings, but of isolated genetic groups where certain traits begin to predominate. However these traits
1. Involve such an incredibly tiny portion of the genome as to be almost negligible
2. Are easily mixed and matched
3. Can be changed within one or two generations
There is no such thing as a bi-racial marriage. That would indicate two races. There are not two biological races among human beings. There is one race with a variety of features. Children of mixed population groups are generally handsomer and healthier, by the way, than children of inbred groups.
Any Christian who is serious about the Bible knows we are not only all descended from Adam and Eve but from Noah as well. We are all marrying cousins of one sort or another! And the farther away in the family tree the cousin is, the less the children of the union stand to inherit damaging recessive genetic traits.
This idea of skin color is so stupid as to be idiotic in terms of what a person is like. Biologically, the lighter the skin the more the person is susceptible to skin cancer. Great trait! Why anyone would want to marry a melanin-challenged person like me is beyond me!
1. Involve such an incredibly tiny portion of the genome as to be almost negligible
2. Are easily mixed and matched
3. Can be changed within one or two generations
There is no such thing as a bi-racial marriage. That would indicate two races. There are not two biological races among human beings. There is one race with a variety of features. Children of mixed population groups are generally handsomer and healthier, by the way, than children of inbred groups.
Any Christian who is serious about the Bible knows we are not only all descended from Adam and Eve but from Noah as well. We are all marrying cousins of one sort or another! And the farther away in the family tree the cousin is, the less the children of the union stand to inherit damaging recessive genetic traits.
This idea of skin color is so stupid as to be idiotic in terms of what a person is like. Biologically, the lighter the skin the more the person is susceptible to skin cancer. Great trait! Why anyone would want to marry a melanin-challenged person like me is beyond me!
Daniel David
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Why do you believe this?
God's Word has more to say about the spiritual ramifications of the union with our mate than the race. We can't even get people to marry their own spiritual kind. Let's no go borrowing trouble as my mamaw used to say
[ September 16, 2002, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
[ September 16, 2002, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: TomVols ]
I am wondering what makes you think bi-racial marriages are wrong? Is it just the fact that the couple and any children may suffer persecution? Or is it something else?
I'm not trying to single you out or pick on you, I am just sincerely interested in why you feel the way you do about it.
My brother and I were shunned by my paternal aunts because we were the offspring of a "mixed" marriage. My father is an "American" (nominally Scottish descent) and my mother is of Austrian descent.
It would be laughable except that it caused an incredible amount of pain and division in our family. My aunts barely spoke to me and I barely know my cousins or knew my uncles on that side of the family. We did not associate with that part of the family after my paternal grandparents died in 1970 and 1972. My parents didn't want us subjected to the caustic comments of my aunts about our "half-breed" status.
The "funny" thing about it is that I'm lighter skinned they they are!
It would be laughable except that it caused an incredible amount of pain and division in our family. My aunts barely spoke to me and I barely know my cousins or knew my uncles on that side of the family. We did not associate with that part of the family after my paternal grandparents died in 1970 and 1972. My parents didn't want us subjected to the caustic comments of my aunts about our "half-breed" status.
The "funny" thing about it is that I'm lighter skinned they they are!
See, Baptist Believer, you proved my point!
I am opposed because of the effects on the children, the ones to suffer from society and rejection of either or both races, dealing with self esteem issues, too.
As nice as we pretend let's just love everybody and we are all of the human race and it feels good to be so inclusive, etc., the fact is people suffer over it because that is the way society is. Of course, the same could be said about people who have birth defects or disease, too.
There is also a cultural clash that comes into play. Isn't it tough enough to maintain a good marriage even in the best of circumstances without ethnicity and cultures being thrown into the equation?
In God's eyes, if it is an equally yoked marriage from a spiritual standpoint, no problem.
The problem comes about because we have to live in an imperfect world and imperfect society. And people can be mean. And bigotry, even if suppressed or silenced, does still exist. Granted, society today is more accepting of biracial marriages, but there are still societal stigmas in some circles, even if only whispers.
I am against biracial marriage because I've seen the backlash in families I know.
I am opposed because of the effects on the children, the ones to suffer from society and rejection of either or both races, dealing with self esteem issues, too.
As nice as we pretend let's just love everybody and we are all of the human race and it feels good to be so inclusive, etc., the fact is people suffer over it because that is the way society is. Of course, the same could be said about people who have birth defects or disease, too.
There is also a cultural clash that comes into play. Isn't it tough enough to maintain a good marriage even in the best of circumstances without ethnicity and cultures being thrown into the equation?
In God's eyes, if it is an equally yoked marriage from a spiritual standpoint, no problem.
The problem comes about because we have to live in an imperfect world and imperfect society. And people can be mean. And bigotry, even if suppressed or silenced, does still exist. Granted, society today is more accepting of biracial marriages, but there are still societal stigmas in some circles, even if only whispers.
I am against biracial marriage because I've seen the backlash in families I know.