I sat astonished last night as I listened to Bill Kristol, a neocon heavyweight (Bill's daddy practically started the whole neocon movement) say these words:
Link:
http://www.ology.com/politics/weekl...kristol-wants-ron-paul-out-gop-video/01172012
Bill Kristol Wants Ron Paul Out Of The GOP
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by J.D., Jan 18, 2012.
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Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
Bill Kristol. The neo-con's neo-con.
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He runs for office as a Republican, because he can't get elected as a Libertarian. -
Smaller government?
Strong defense without "policing the world" as Ronald Reagan said?
Liberty?
States rights?
Anti-abortion?
Which of these is he "not a republican" on? -
Yep. He lacks the moral courage to run as what he really is. -
Ron Paul is smart enough to know that many Americans won't take a chance on a third party ticket. So, he has had to work from the inside as a Republican.
Personally, the RP left me a long time ago. They are just Dem Lights in practice. -
He vehemently disagreed with the policies of Ronald Reagan. -
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He is only expressing an opinion Gentlemen.....and we all know what opinions are like now dont we! :laugh:
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Those of us in New York, left the Republician Party back in 1962. We started the Conservative Party. Now the Reps realzie they need to work with us to win elections.
Salty
PS - did you know that one of the founder of the NY Conservative Party was Charles Edison - son of Thomas A Edison! -
If you want 3rd parties in America, get rid of all the laws that give the two major parties unfair advantages. If you do that (which is something I have been supporting for years), then I think we would see about 4-5 different parties spring up overnight. To me, getting rid of the laws that virtually give the R's and D's a monopoly in our system are corrupt laws made by corrupt party people. Kill those laws then 3rd parties may have a chance, like they did when Lincoln came on the scene. -
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Anyway, I agree .....we need to break this 2 party grip on America. How do you (with all your years of experience) :laugh: suggest we go about doing it? -
For example - if 38% of the voters are Rep - they get 38% of seats in Congress
if the Green party has 3% of the registered voters....
Thoughts? -
Bill Kristol is a white Juan Williams and instead of being a hard nosed closed minded liberal as Juan is Kristol is a hard nosed closed minded republican.
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It's kinda fun to watch Paul explain why he's a libertarian, not a Republican.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGW7sP8TkXk
Paulbots really make me laugh. -
Michael Berry. By far the wisest Conservative talk show host on the radio...
http://downloads.iheartradio.com/media/station_content/700/Berry_11812_8am_1326900517_9466.mp3 -
Yet, you did not address one issue in my post. Would you call Barry Goldwater a Republican? Do you think the principles Reagan ran on in 1980 was Republican? Would you not agree that Goldwater influenced Reagan and Paul? Would you agree that Paul is closer to Goldwater than Reagan was after the election?
Paul embraced the corrupt Republican Party because the corrupt two party system has a monopoly on the system making a 3rd party almost impossible.
There are two boats afloat in our system, all other systems are dead in the water due to the corrupt regulations and laws imposed by the Dems and Republicans. As a result, Paul must be one or the other.
I am a Goldwater Republican... but we have never been welcomed in the Republican Party. When Reagan ran as a Goldwater Republican, he was said to be too radical for the party. He later took office and compromised on his beliefs. Ron Paul has remained a consistent Goldwater Republican... and once again the corrupt establishment bash him for the same things they bashed Reagan... what a shame.
It was the Republicans who thought Reagan was too radical to be a Republican... and the same group of people are saying it about Ron Paul. I stand with Paul and Goldwater... though I did leave the utterly corrupt Republican Party. -
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So tell, me, oh wise one, do you agree that Paul, and the rest of us early Reagan/Goldwater types, should leave the party? Cause if you do, you realize that with a 15 to 20 percent drop in numbers (actually, in terms of foreign policy the last poll among Republicans showed that 37 percent agreed with Paul... yet we are "outside the mainstream), you will likely never win another election.
It would be HIGHLY disgusting of you, to suggest that Paul leave, while the rest of us who agree with him stay and "tow the party line." If we are here, then people who represent our views are here. Otherwise, we take our ball and go home, and the democrats get the whole thing.
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