blasphemy

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by charles_creech78, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    I commit to being slack in the Lord's work in the same way I suspect you do. I become selfish and put other things before His work. I suspect each and every one of us on this board are guilty of committing that sin at some point or another. If you say you are not guilty of committing that sin, then you've committed another by lying.
     
  2. historyb New Member

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    That was quite a nonsensical example since you stated it was an accident.

    No murder is a sin, not killing and don't give me the Bible says it is stuff. Killing in the context of Scripture means murdering.

    A downright silly example, killing accidentally is not a sin nor has it ever have been. Saying one doesn't sin is and is Anti Biblical
     
  3. charles_creech78 New Member

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    Thou shalt NOT KILL. It is a sin. I never said I have no sin. I said I don't commit them.
     
  4. historyb New Member

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    No, it is murder not kill. That is how I know you have no idea what your talking about
     
  5. charles_creech78 New Member

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    I don't willfully do them. You have to willfully go out and kill still and commit adultery. I cannot willfully do that.
     
  6. charles_creech78 New Member

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    Ya but thou shalt not kill is the commandment of God. Where does it say killing is not a sin. Show me.
     
  7. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    The word used for kill is "ratsah". Which refers to the criminal act of killing, not accidental.
     
  8. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you can willfully do that. You are a sinner just like the rest of us. No sin is beyond your ability to commit. You obviously think you are better than the rest of us? Oh, that would be pride. Another sin you have committed.
     
  9. Allan Active Member

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    Correct:

    IOW - Thou shalt not 'MURDER' (to kill without legal and just cause).
     
  10. charles_creech78 New Member

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    Ok what ever you say. I have no pride. Love all of you and I am done with this. This topic is not about my sins. Go back and look. The subject is off and I am done. Bye
     
  11. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you are full of pride if you believe you are above committing any sin. I wish you well and hope that you come to the realization that we are all sinners and capable of any sin. Thanks God for Jesus and His cleansing blood!
     
  12. charles_creech78 New Member

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    You just don't stop do you. I am done with this. The end.
     
  13. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Wait...we've been through this before. You said, "Love all of you and I am done with this. This topic is not about my sins. Go back and look. The subject is of and I am done. Bye"

    So, you lied. You weren't done with it. You willfully posted on this thread again. That's means you committed a sin!
     
  14. DHK <b>Moderator</b>

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    The Bible interprets itself. In Mat.12:30-33 and in Mark 3:22-30 the passage makes it abundantly clear what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is, and why it cannot be committed today. If you study your Bible you would know this.

    Mark 3:29-30 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
    They had blasphemed the Holy Spirit in that they attributed Christ's miracles to an unclean spirit, a demonic spirit or Satan. They saw his miracles, and they said they were of Satan. That situation cannot be replicated today, and thus the sin is impossible to commit today. Clear?
    Context is important.
    You are very confused.
    Yes I have the Holy Ghost indwelling in me.
    It is possible for a Christian to commit any sin, but that is not the will of God.
    Read 1John 2:1 and then tell me why the Holy Spirit wrote it:

    1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
    Yes, that was then. That is history. Jesus does not live on the earth now.
    And everyone on this board knows that is a lie in and of itself.

    How do you escape these verses?
    1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
    --In order to have sin, you must have committed sin!
    To do sin; to commit sin; to have sin; etc. are all the same thing. You are simply playing word games, trying to escape the judgment of God, or your own deception.
    Yes, that means you have committed sin. It is the only way that you have sin--to commit it.
    Yes, being unrighteousness is sin. You have been unrighteous as you have said because you have committed sins of unrighteousness. That is why you are unrighteous. You commit unrighteous sins.
    And it is committing sin.
    What sins do I commit: mortal or venial? Is that what you are talking about? How does one sin differ from another. God says that all sins are the same. There is no difference between sin; only the consequence is different. Look what the Bible says about sins:

    1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
    --Sin is a transgression of the law.
    It doesn't matter if it is a little law or murder. It is breaking the law. That is what God's definition of sin is--breaking the law. All sin is the same. It is breaking the law. It doesn't matter which law.

    James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    --Thou shalt not bear false witness--lying
    --Thou shalt not kill--murder
    If you keep the whole law and just offend in one point (like lying) you are guilty of breaking all the law--murder and adultery included. Why?
    God does not differ between sins. All sin is a breaking of God's law.
    You called the Holy Spirit unclean. Is not that blasphemy?
    Shame on me for what? I am not the one claiming sinless perfection like Jesus Christ was.
    And your deeds are evil also for you commit the same sins, as others have already explained to you. In fact even worse because you fail to admit it.

    1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    --It is a serious thing to be without the truth and in a state of deception, but that is where the Bible puts you.
    No, that is not blasphemy. That is your misunderstanding of Scripture. It is foolishness and naive to think that you can live a sinless life on this earth, which you have just implied.
    Are you born again? Yes or no?
    Have you sinned since then? yes or no?
    If you have, then you have committed sin.
    If you haven't then you put yourself on the same plane as Jesus Christ, the sinless one. That in itself is pride, a sin that you have committed.
     
  15. EdSutton New Member

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    I believe you are the one who wanted the subject to be about blasphemy. I suggest your post above has just crossed that line, frankly. And, BTW, I am not referring to anything about whether or not you do or do not 'commit' any particular sin, for frankly, I have more than enough of my own to deal with, without worrying about some other's sins.

    If it is a sin to kill, as you have just said, then you have to be saying that God is guilty of sin, or actually commanded man to sin, and I suggest that, my friend, is real blasphemy!

    God killed every person on the earth, except for 8 souls, in the flood.

    God commanded Israel to "smite with the edge of the sword" or in other words, to kill the inhabitants of the land of Canaan.

    God specifically told Moses to kill the Midianites (Num. 31).

    And God is going to kill great numbers at least 3 times in the future in the first battle of Gog and Magog, at the Valley of Jezreel, and at the second battle of Gog and Magog.

    Frankly, I would suggest you might be better served to actually study the whole counsel of God on these various subjects, instead of trying to fit all of Scripture's teachings about any subject into a small handful of verses, thus winding up with some verse or verses, which 'trump' some other verse or verses. I do not believe Scripture contradicts, itself.

    But sometimes, any of us can become so 'gung-ho' over some particular point, that we wind up "missing seeing the forest for the trees" as the saying goes.

    Ed
     
  16. charles_creech78 New Member

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    By the way the subject of my sins is what I was done with. I never said me posting on this thread again. What subject did I say was off. Look for my faults you will find them. Read my post and you will know what I was done with. Bye
     
  17. sag38 Active Member

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    Are you really done or are you going to continue to post? Either you are done or you are not. And, either you sin or you do not. You can't have it both ways. But, that seems to be your standard. How confusing that must be.
     
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    The text you cite is speaking of habitual sinning- i.e. the unrepentant, rebellious continuation in a particular sin without confession before God.

    Can a true Christian continue in habitual sin? I donĀ“t believe so. But can a christian struggle with a particular sin (porn, anger etc.) Absolutely. The difference is that a true regenerated person will always be coming before the throne of Grace in repentance, pleading continually for the mercy of God. While the unbeliever who professes to be a christian but does not manifest an attitude of repentance and a willingness to leave the sin in his life behind, was never saved in the first place.
     
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    Charles.. I was too harsh in my previous posts. . for that I sinned. I am sorry.

    I still stick by my convictions that apparently go against what you believe.
    When we get to Heaven, we can compare notes.

    Until then, God bless you.
     
  20. rbell Active Member

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    By the way...are you committing to leaving this thread, or just leaving this thread?

    By your reasoning, there's a difference...I think....

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