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BREAKING NEWS: ISIL Declares New Islamic State

poncho

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I wasn't telling him how to spell it. I was telling him that spelling it in that way made him lose credibility, and that I considered it disrespectful.

And as for unlawful orders from an illegitimate government, that's your opinion (to which you are entitled), and that's all.

As for sensitivity, maybe. But if I'm sensitive to it (not being the sensitive type), how many others are reading this that are even more sensitive? How many passersby are possibly offended, losing them to the message completely?

My opinion? Why yes it is my opinion only because the facts and evidence are behind it.

You are taking part in unlawful wars based on lies. You can deny it all you want but none of them have any constitutional standing. You swore to protect and defend the constitution. Putting on an Army uniform and taking orders from a lawless (illegitimate, see Marbury Vs Madison) government that openly violates that constitution violates that oath.

That's not just opinion that's common sense and the law.

How many others reading have been awakened by it? By rights Americans should be outraged and streaming onto the streets by the millions protesting this illegitimate form of government that has been imopsed on us!

The only reason there isn't mass civil unrest is because people can still afford their SUVs and big screen TVs and the corporate media does a superb job of keeping us all divided along party lines, racial lines, religious lines and a number of other lines.

The day is coming that isn't going to be the case. Why do you think the government is stockpiling arms and militarizing the police and claiming you and all the returning veterans are the big threat to security now? To throw a big party in your name for liberty? Puleeze. Look at all the other countries the people you serve have put into crushing debt and then looted with "austerity measures". When it comes here and it will it'll be a hundred times worse than what we see in Greece and Spain.

You serve an evil illegitimate power and yet you think you have a right to decide what others say about it? I don't think so.

You'd make a good democrat friend. And I say that with all due respect.
 
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Sapper Woody

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My opinion? Why yes it is my opinion only because the facts and evidence are behind it.

You are taking part in unlawful wars based on lies. You can deny it all you want but none of them have any constitutional standing. You swore to protect and defend the constitution. Putting on an Army uniform and taking orders from a lawless government that openly violates that constitution violates that oath.

That's not just opinion that's common sense.

How many others reading have been awakened by it? By rights Americans should be outraged and streaming onto the streets by the millions protesting this illegitimate form of government that has been imopsed on us!

The only reason there isn't mass civil unrest is because people can still afford their SUVs and big screen TVs.

The day is coming that isn't going to be the case. Look at all the other countries the people you serve have put into crushing debt and then looted them with "austerity measures".

You serve an evil illegitimate power and yet you think you have a right to decide what others say about it?

You'd make a good democrat friend.

Wow. I'm not sure where this animosity is coming from. I had thought we'd grown some rapport.

Again, if you read my posts, I am not telling him what to say about it, nor am I even demanding he spell it right. I'm informing him that it's detrimental to his cause, and is viewed as an insult.

Be honest. If someone comes along and sees "Amerika", they're going to assume that the writer hates America and will tune out anything helpful that person has to say.

You know I disagree with much of what you say, Poncho, and you also have to admit that I disagree with you respectfully. Even stood up for you a couple times, and would do it again.

That's why I don't get why you're trying to demonize me after asking someone to spell something correctly.

As far as political party, while registered Republican (too lazy to change it), I consider myself independent.
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
Wow. I'm not sure where this animosity is coming from. I had thought we'd grown some rapport.

Again, if you read my posts, I am not telling him what to say about it, nor am I even demanding he spell it right. I'm informing him that it's detrimental to his cause, and is viewed as an insult.

Be honest. If someone comes along and sees "Amerika", they're going to assume that the writer hates America and will tune out anything helpful that person has to say.

You know I disagree with much of what you say, Poncho, and you also have to admit that I disagree with you respectfully. Even stood up for you a couple times, and would do it again.

That's why I don't get why you're trying to demonize me after asking someone to spell something correctly.

As far as political party, while registered Republican (too lazy to change it), I consider myself independent.

I'm not demonizing you Sapper. I count you as a friend that's why I'm telling you the truth. I hold no ill will towards you personally. I know you're heart is in the right place same as so many others who want to serve this country.

But the fact remains it's not this country you are serving at all. You are serving the interests of a psychopathic global oligarchy that doesn't care how many of you or anyone has to die or get maimed so they can stuff their pockets with money and gain more control over everyone.

The world isn't ruled by Jesus Christ Sapper it's ruled by Satan and his minnions. Death and destruction is what they're all about. Look around you, can you honestly tell me you serve people who want these wars to end?

Look you leveled with me and I respect you for that. Now I'm leveling with you because of that respect.

If I didn't respect you you'd join those on my ignore list.
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
Back to the OP:
It is not just Syria and Iraq.
BAGHDAD (Worthy News)– According to a world map released by the "Islamic State" on Twitter shows the jihadist organization's 5-year plan to establish the Caliphate across the entire Middle East including Israel, North Africa, Spain, Greece, Pakistan, Georgia, China and parts of Russia.
"The legality of all emirates, groups, states and organizations becomes null by the expansion of the caliph's authority and the arrival of its troops to their areas," Islamic State spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani said in an audio release. "Listen to your caliph and obey him. Support your state, which grows every day."
"The time has come for the Ummah [nation] of Mohammed (peace be upon him) to wake up from its sleep, remove the garments of dishonor, and shake off the dust of humiliation and disgrace," Adnani said.
"For the era of lamenting and moaning has gone, and the dawn of honor has emerged anew. The sun of jihad has risen. The glad tidings of good are shining. Triumph looms on the horizon. The signs of victory have appeared," he continued.
"The Shura (council) of the Islamic State met and discussed this issue (of the Caliphate)… The Islamic State decided to establish an Islamic Caliphate and to designate a Caliph for the state of the Muslims," Adnani added.
The spokesman, Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, said all Muslims worldwide will be required to pay allegiance to al-Baghdadi.
He characterized the establishment of the caliphate as "a new era of international jihad."
Look at the map included in the link:
http://www.worthynews.com/16641-islamic-state-releases-its-vision-for-a-caliphate
 
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