You are speaking of sanctification, not salvation.
Calvin on "total depravity"
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by AndThisGospel, Jan 27, 2017.
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Who ever blamed God for mans sinful wickedness? The blame for sin is entirely on man.
God is not obligated to save even one person, yet you claim God saved all humans and only the morons say no.
Your claim is so biblically incorrect that it just leaves me shaking my head. I am dumbfounded by the ludicrousness of your claim. You deny grace with your words and you are too blind to conceive of how you've accomplished such a feat of legalism. Shake my head. -
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Rom 5:18 NASB So then as through one transgression [Adam's] there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness [Christ's] there resulted justification of life to all men. -
Now, what are Adam's offspring going to do about this fact? Will they reject the gospel, or will they accept it?
17 For if by the transgression of the one (Adam), death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
Those who receive what God has already accomplished "in Christ" will reign in life. Those who reject the gospel will see death, the 2nd death. It's just that simple. -
You blame God and you say that God's atonement has not yet come.
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Romans 5:15
But the free gift is not like the
trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Romans 5:19
For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
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Hitler shows more mercy then your idea of God.
Yeah your happy cause he shot the guy in the head next to you and let you live. Oh yeah he had "no reason" to let you live.....so merciful.
Thank God, I'm not that reprobate!
Nazis thought they were chosen ones too, And plenty folks were afraid and followed peer pressure while they settled for a leader who killed burned Jews.
It doesn't even hold a candle, to the flat out evil idea of God you have. Cause you think he is going to do it to them again, just to prove how "glorious" he is.
Luckily scripture has some checks and balances. #1 being the command of God which is to love God and neighbor.
1 Corinthians 13
1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
So the idea God is evil just doesn't work.
Your interpretation of God is so evil I challenge you to show me something WORST! -
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Martin Marprelate Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I don't know if you have any pastoral responsibilities, but a sure way to leave Christians mired in sin is to tell them that they can't help sinning because they still have a sinful nature. No, no! We should tell our people the wonderful truth that they have died to sin, and that therefore they have no business sinning. We must also warn them that if they carry on sinning as they did before, that is a sign that they are not saved. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are adultery, fornication, uncleanness...........envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries and the like, of which I tell you.....that those who practise such things will not inherit the kingdom of God' (Galatians 5:19-21).
"Yes, but I have this sinful nature you see, and......"
'Those who practise such things will not inherit the kingdom of God'
"Yes, but AndthisGospel told me........"
'Those who practise such things will not inherit the kingdom of God'
"Yes, but......."
'Those who practise such things will not inherit the kingdom of God' 'Those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires' (Galatians 5:24).
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Did Christ reverse our condemnation "in Adam" or not? Romans 5:18 states yes....There are other texts too.... -
Continue to blame God if you must.
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