There is nothing worse than a leader who will not lead or a 'sympathy' leader...
Christian women w/ Authority over men
Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by donnA, Feb 10, 2005.
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PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
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I've seen plenty of men who didn't want to lead a family, wanted nothing to do with family. Had nothing to do with his wife either. Maybe it's just where I live that I've seen it, most people never meet these types of peoples in their lives.
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PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
I think we've probably all seen them, Donna, and all would agree that the behavior of such a man is reprehensible.
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Bro. James Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What is a born-again wife to do about a born-again husband who is sincerely wrong about spiritual matters? Does she follow him into the ditch?
Selah,
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I've heard one is supposed to Bro. James, but I don't agree with that (especially when children are involved).
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PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
To follow a leader who is mistaken is not necessarily the same as following into the error. e.g. If he is a theistic evolutionist, she can honor him, follow him, etc. without having to adopt his belief.
If he's only a 20% godly leader, she is to follow him 100% in that 20%. Obviously, relationship is vital so that she feels comfortable asking questions and expressing her viewpoint. -
This subject is a lot more complicated than some would have us to believe...
Sometimes (at least to me) it's not as simple as "the man is the leader of the home". -
PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
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PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
[/QUOTE]So is she to allow him to teach the children this mistaken theology or should she go against him and teach them the right theology behind his back?
This subject is a lot more complicated than some would have us to believe...
Sometimes (at least to me) it's not as simple as "the man is the leader of the home". [/QB][/QUOTE]
She doesn't "allow" him to do anything. He outranks her. yes, in most cases, it is as simple as that. -
And what happens when one of the kids says, "But Daddy doesn't believe that."?
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PastorGreg MemberSite Supporter
With all of that in mind, she must trust God. She must pray for her husband, believing that God can change his heart. She must ask God for wisdom, James 1:5. In so many of these discussions, those arguing for the woman's right to disobey her husband seem to forget that God is still alive and powerful and able to change hearts.
So, in answering the above question she must be careful to obey GOD and respond graciously to her children, seeking to elevate her husband in their eyes. This God honors. The specific answer would depend on the age/spiritual understanding of the child. If they are old enough, probably something like, "God made Daddy our leader and we must never argue with Him, but show him the love of Jesus. If we think Daddy is wrong we can pray and ask God to help him see the truth."
I really believe that God will give the woman with a proper spirit the wisdom to respond right without compromising God's truth. -
Pastor_Bob Well-Known Member
My two favorite verses on this topic are Ephesians 5:25 and I Peter 3:1.
I've never personally met a husband who does his best to love his wife as Christ loved the church who didn't have a wife that responded to him properly and submit to her God-given role in the home.
For those who may have lost or backslidden husbands, I Peter 3:1 very clearly teaches that it is by your submission and reverence to him that will win him; even without preaching to him.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; (KJV)
1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; (KJV) -
Amen Pastor_Bob!
Now that I've been married for just under three months, your remarks above are heartily received in the grace that you have stated them. No wonder you're a pastor!! -
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