Christians, War, and Violence

Forensics aside, if the Lord gave them permission to carry a weapon then wouldn’t it be sensible to assume they were for protection and in wielding them ( deadly accurate or not ) He condoned violence in certain applications?

 

This topic might be worthy of a separate thread.

 

So I can’t love them but protect myself if they threaten violence?!? That’s absurd.

 

Why don’t you start it Rob?

 

If you can kill someone an follow Jesus, let me in on it.

 

1689Dave, what did you do during Viet-Nam? Or did you have a high number?

 

I'm busy, my centurion is on my case about sharpening my sword, and then we have to go to the motor pool and pull maintenance on the chariots.
:Biggrin

 

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will dig ditches for those who don't !

Sgt. York. our most-famous WW1 soldier, at first was a "conchy", til he saw the error of his way. He was a devout Christian in ths Church of Christ in Christian Union, a Methodist-like denom, not a SDA or JW as some believed.

 

I got drafted as a I-O (civilian) conscientious objector.

 

Just follow Jesus and it will make sense.

 

I was referring to your awesome mind-reading ability when you asserted that God planned WWII for the world and not for the Church.

I would also point out that you are stating God is a god of war and you reference the Old Testament but then you argue that Christians should not use violence because Jesus taught differently in the New Testament. So there is a contradiction in your thinking.

 

Jesus forbids violence from his followers. God causes all war in judgement on nations. As revealed in the OT.

 

And you don't see the contradiction there?

You seem to be saying this about God, "Do as I say, not as I do."

 

God has a plan for believers. He has a plan for unbelievers.

 

Violence is violence, only the means of the violence is changed. It was the best thing that we dropped 2 such weapons on Japan. My father was waiting in the wings to assault the Japanese homeland when they were dropped. His life was most likely saved, as were many other Americans, including tens of thousands of Japanese.

Look, since there is a heavenly afterlife, what is the problem with all this dying that which is part and parcel of the living experience? No human can get there without it happening to them, the concern of Christ is that we are not to live our lives following Satan and the world, yet we allowed to protect ourselves, our families and our nation. Any other conclusion is a false reading of the Scriptures.

Like I asked earlier, have you moved out of your house and moved in less fortunate people so you can truly follow Christ's command that we be our brothers keeper? Why do you get to live in such luxury while others are sleeping on the streets?

 

It still remains, war is no place for the believer.

 

But God expects us to do what we can for ourselves, including defending ourselves when necessary.

 

Well, maybe in response I should state a non-sequitur. It seems to be your forte.

 

Maybe not STARTING a war, but participating to defend one's people, family, land, etc.

I was a USN corpsman before I was saved. Did my salvation change my view of war? Not a bit.

 

After that goofy insanity about some imaginary critter you call an "Edomite Jew", you posted in that other thread, I thought you were seeing some light & "taking" Scripture more at face value, instead of your gang's private interps. Seems I was wrong!