Christians, War, and Violence

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  1. 1689Dave Well-Known Member

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    Do those who suffer most for Christ receive greater reward?
     
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    ..................?
     
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    No, what the Bible teaches is that Satan is the god of the world's system. The Bible says that the earth is the Lord's and all who dwell therein. It all belongs to the Lord. It is not the property of Satan, but again, you are false teacher, and you continuously twist Scripture, as you do now.
     
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    God controls Satan but the world is his appointed domain.
     
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    How is getting raped, "suffering for Christ?" You seriously think that if you're wife is raped, she is suffering for Jesus? Are really that dumb?
     
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    No, it is not his domain. It doesn't belong to Him. It belongs to God.
     
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    If you obey Christ and you suffer for it, he rewards you.
     
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    What's the problem?
     
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    Jesus would not have had a genuine test if Satan was lying about the nations belonging to him.
     
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    Suffering persecution is one thing. But not all suffering is "for the Lord." And you cannot claim that being raped counts as suffering for the Lord. No intelligent person buys the snake oil you're peddling.
     
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    We have an all hat and no cattle situation with those preaching violence.
     
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    Satan is a liar and yes, he was lying.
     
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    So Jesus wasn't tested?
     
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    No one here is preaching violence. You cannot come up with any claim by Jesus that all violence is forbidden.
     
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    If you uphold Jesus' teaching on non violence, and suffer for it, you did the right thing.
     
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    You remain a fool, a cold hearted fool - and a coward for refusing to protect those whom God has placed under your protection. I would gladly die in the process of protecting my family and enter into the next world with a clear conscience and ready to accept the judgement of God for my actions.
     
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    If you condone violence in any form, you might as well be preaching it.
     
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    I think we are to love Jesus more than we do our family.
     
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    the earth cannot be God's and Satan's at the same time. Jesus was tested and could have handed the world's system over to Jesus, but it was a temptation to avoid the cross and Jesus didn't bow to it.

    But that is not the issue here. You enjoy the fruit of the world. You enjoy the fruit of what you claim is sin. You enjoy sin, so you have no credibility.
     
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    But what you're saying is that you would love the rapist more than you love your wife. You would love the rapist and allow him to do as he pleases. You clearly don't love your wife.