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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Iconoclast, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
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  2. Iconoclast

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    Here is what the OP. was asking once again;
    1. In John 6 :37-44 jesus declared that all The Father gives to Him shall come to Him.

      What does it mean to come to Jesus?

    2. Do we literally come to Him?

    3. Do we come in and through faith metaphorically?

    4. Do we come at regeneration having been drawn effectually by The Spirit?
    5. In isa60:3-4 speak of the gentiles coming to Him
    6. Is this a physical coming to Him?
    It is asking about the nature of the coming, not the cause.

    Is It Physical or spiritual?
     
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    Van Well-Known Member
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    Good Golly Miss Molly, all these questions are addressed in post #56. The below repeats the post with "spiritually" being added because apparently the nature of the action was not obvious.


    Coming to Jesus = God puts an individual spiritually into Christ.
    God puts an individual spiritually into Christ = Baptized spiritually into Christ
    Baptized spiritually into Christ = Sanctification by the Spirit
    Sanctification by the Spirit = Sanctifying work of the Spirit
    Sanctifying work of the Spirit = by one Spirit we were all baptized spiritually into one body
    Baptized into one body = transferred spiritually from the realm of darkness into the kingdom of His Son
    Transferred into the kingdom of His Son = called out of darkness into His marvelous light.

    Everyone that arrives spiritually in Christ will never be cast out!!!
    To be redeemed is to be put spiritually into Christ
    To be redeemed is to be transferred spiritually from the realm of darkness into His marvelous light.

    Whose action? God's action alone. The individual plays no part.
    Is the action based on willing or working for salvation? Nope, salvation depends on God alone.

    Coming to Jesus = God puts an individual spiritually into Christ.
    Coming to faith = putting our trust and devotion in Christ in response to the call and draw of the gospel.

    False teachers conflate these two very different actions.​
     
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    IMO, both

    He first loved, called, extended his unmerited favor, implanting faith, and we, as partakes of such, cannot help but respond both physically in overt submission/Godly repentance, and humble service, but the transformation of the very core of our lives is not accomplished but by the work of the Holy Spirit. We are “born from above.”

    We are His workmanship, chosen, redeemed, and held accountable as stewards of service to Him as ambassadors.

    It is not merely a spiritual but also a physical, for we who remain at His coming shall be transformed into that new that will be like Him.

    We shall know as He has known, and we shall see Him, have fellowship with the saints, and relish in His presence finally understanding that nothing transpired but what was not for His glory and our benefit.
     
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    Jesus declared that All the Father has given to Him shall come to Him.

    I believe Jesus.

    God will save everyone He intends to save. Not one more person, not one less.
    The multitude of everyone believing will be saved from their sins, then come to Jesus both here and in the future,face to face.
     
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