http://www.sbsun.com/social-affairs...isplay-of-confederate-flags-in-lake-arrowhead
It appears that some Lake Arrowhead high school kids have decided to push the envelope on the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, and it will be interesting to see if their right to display this flag from the back of their pick-up trucks survives the ruffled feathers of the few?!
Personally, I see nothing wrong with this flag, and how they are using it on their own private vehicles! If it offends someone, or a group of someone's ... oh, well! Too bad, so sad: just give them time and space to get GLAD! I for one am offended every time I see a Mexican flag waved at a protest, or hung in front of a home in my neighborhood, but the last thing I'd do is attempt to deny that persons right to display their nation of origin's flag!
The problem in American today is simple to diagnose! People feel so entitled today, that they think the rest of the world is their footstool to rest their legs on following a busy day!
We have become a nation of selfish, backbiting, single-minded, entitled, spoiled brats! It is time for the young folks who want safe zones at their universities ... to JUST grow up! People way too easily offended in this country! At the school board meeting on September 1st, former State Assemblyman Tim Donnelly said, "while the Confederate flags — long a symbol of racism and hatred to some and patriotism to others — have triggered ire with some students and parents, “The right to not be offended does not exist in our Constitution.” http://www.pe.com/articles/school-812738-confederate-students.html
Do you agree with Mr. Donnelly, that The right to not be offended does not exist in our Constitution.”
Confederate battle flag angers many at California high school!?
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Sep 9, 2016.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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The so-called "Rebel" flag annoys me to no end. I roll my eyes every time I see one (which is frequent here in Arkansas), but I would never deny the right of those individuals to fly that flag.
They have the right to fly it, and I have the right to be annoyed by their flying it. I don't have the right (or the desire) to vandalize their property, just as they don't have the right to vandalize mine.
Free speech is protected, period.
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Personally, I am not offended by the flying of the Confederate standard. However, I do not like it. To me, it does not symbolize racism, but rebellion and disunification (according to spell check, that's not a real word).
I understand the origins, and how it stood for state's rights and freedom. But today the meaning has changed. You'll often see it displayed alongside the phrase, "The south will rise again". This is nothing but a (nonintentional - wow, another "non word") malcontent viewpoint on the union of the states. It's meant as a statement of pride, but if we look at what's actually being said, it promotes secession and discontent.
So, while I am not offended by it, I don't like it.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I like all of your points! Thanks guys for sharing!
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
First, if they want to actually get rid of those things that once represented slavery and racism they would have to end the Democrat party. That party was the driving force behind both.
Second, while I do not have a Confederate flag what I do know and understand is that it does not represent disunification. It does represent states rights at its core and in that I celebrate it. When your goal is to take over many of states rights then symbols like the Confederate flag must be eliminated in order to condition the public to allow it.
The issue over the confederate flag is a recent event. It really began just after the North Carolina shooting. The whole BLM, get rid of the Confederate flag thing is just a political agenda to nationalize local police departments. -
The issue has consistently crept up. When I lived in Georgia it comprised a portion of the state flag (and although I don't like it because to me it represented much of my childhood, it was appropriately changed to suit its citizens as a whole).
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RD2, please remember California was a Union state back in the day. In fact, the "California Column" pushed the Confederate Army out of Arizona and New Mexico. It ended up its march across the southwest in the El Paso area. So, the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia does not represent California's "heritage" except as an enemy flag.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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We could have the states' rights discussion ad nauseum, but that wouldn't change the flag's nature. Its very beginning was in the context of secession and war.
A person isn't legally required to pursue unity, so it's a matter of preference anyway. That being said, the flag cannot be separated from its origins as a flag of disunity. Certainly it united the Army of Northern Virginia, but it united them against United States Army. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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For instance, I personally don't think a state should fly a Confederate flag (like SC did)---except for perhaps in a museum or historical site, but I believe the state has the right to make that decision. In SC, bipartisan support brought the flag down. BLM doesn't have that kind of backing.
Privately, I don't think anyone should have their right to fly the flag specifically restricted (except for times when general restrictions on flags are in place--like HOAs). Personally, I don't like the flag, and I wouldn't display one outside of some historical display.
For BLM, I don't oppose the movement in theory, but I oppose a lot of what they do in practice. I also think some of the reasons for BLM's existence are questionable.
I also support police officers, the VAST majority of whom are doing their jobs honorably.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Like I support Colin Kaepernick's right to not stand for the anthem, I support their right to fly their stupid racist representing banner flag. The caveat would be that like so many other things, you're not allowed to do so on school property or at school events. That seems to be the tact that many school districts have taken with tshirts and any other type dress that might "disrupt" the operation of the school. -
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Now, put up, or shut up! Show me da money! -
Burn.
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