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Death Penalty - Is it Biblical?

JesusFan

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And yet, Paul was not executed for his part in the willful murder of Christians, and specifically says God showed mercy toward him as an example for future Christians to follow..

If we are going to obey the command of God and show mercy toward the worst of sinners, even murderers like Paul, then we shouldn’t support their execution.. that is the example we are suppose to follow.

peace to you
IF someone was convicted of first degree murder, you state that the law of God prohibits him to face the penalty of his sinning then?
 

JesusFan

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Brother, you are grievously misusing that text.
Still trying to see where in the bible that the lord himself stated that murder no longer fell under the death penalty?

NOT saying that we must execute all who commit murder, but where does it state to us that the option to do such is still viable?
 

canadyjd

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We should also execute adulterers, homosexuals, and perverts. Why pick murder as the only offense we execute for?
And so the list of “crimes” that warrant the death penalty continues to expand.

I suspect there are some on BB that would include “heresy” among that list… and they get to decide what is heresy.

peace to you
 

JesusFan

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And so the list of “crimes” that warrant the death penalty continues to expand.

I suspect there are some on BB that would include “heresy” among that list… and they get to decide what is heresy.

peace to you
I see it as premeditated murder only, as that was given before the Mosaic law to us!
 

Aaron

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I notice your list expands far beyond murder.
Yes, it does. So did Moses's.

By supporting the death penalty today, we are laying the foundation for the death penalty to be used against Christians in the future.
No more than supporting prisons is laying the foundation for Christians to be imprisoned.
 

canadyjd

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I see it as premeditated murder only, as that was given before the Mosaic law to us!
Are you referring to Genesis 9:6 “whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed”?

That mentions nothing of “premeditation” but simply shedding blood, which could mean by accident or negligence. It is a reference to the ancient near East custom of the “blood avenger”.

There were “cities of refuge” during OT times where people could flee to for safety from the “blood avenger”.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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We do not live under the OT Law, but I’d be interested in your listing of every transgression you believe deserves death?

peace to you
 
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Aaron

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We do not live under the OT Law. Thank God.

peace to you
Which is why I didn't list working on the Sabbath, blasphemy, idolatry, disobedience to parents, etc.

We still live under natural law, and justice is still a thing to mete. The civil magistrates bear the sword. They are the ministers of God to execute wrath upon the evildoers. That's straight from the pen of Christ's apostle, and whatever he bound on earth, is bound in Heaven.
 

kyredneck

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A life sentence isn't a just sentence.

There were no prison sentences under the Mosaic law. If it wasn't a capital offense some form of restitution or public humiliation was administered and the offenders went on with their lives.
 

JonC

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There were no prison sentences under the Mosaic law. If it wasn't a capital offense some form of restitution or public humiliation was administered and the offenders went on with their lives.
Unless they made it to a city of refuge.
 

kyredneck

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Unless they made it to a city of refuge.

I thought the six cities of refuge was for when a death was involved and was only temporary until things cooled down and righteous judgement could prevail. Any way, I was thinking of NON-CAPITAL offenses, which penalties consisted of stripes and or restitution. There were no prisons under the Mosaic law. When Jeremiah was locked up a place had to be found to hold him.
 
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canadyjd

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I see it as premeditated murder only, as that was given before the Mosaic law to us!
Have you looked at 1 Timothy 1:15-17 or so. I’d really like to know your opinion of Paul saying God showed him mercy as an example for future Christian’s to follow.

How can you show mercy to someone while supporting putting the person to death?

peace to you
 

Aaron

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Have you looked at 1 Timothy 1:15-17 or so. I’d really like to know your opinion of Paul saying God showed him mercy as an example for future Christian’s to follow.

How can you show mercy to someone while supporting putting the person to death?

peace to you
The one being put to death isn't receiving mercy, but wrath.
 

canadyjd

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The one being put to death isn't receiving mercy, but wrath.
Or “justice” or “vengeance” or “what they deserve” but not mercy.

As Christians, we are commanded to follow the example of God with Paul and show mercy.

peace to you
 

JesusFan

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Have you looked at 1 Timothy 1:15-17 or so. I’d really like to know your opinion of Paul saying God showed him mercy as an example for future Christian’s to follow.

How can you show mercy to someone while supporting putting the person to death?

peace to you
refers to those who are saved by Lord Jesus, and while they are saved from wrath of god, does not mean will not face death penalty if commit a capital sin!
 

canadyjd

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refers to those who are saved by Lord Jesus, and while they are saved from wrath of god, does not mean will not face death penalty if commit a capital sin!
The passage specifically says we, as Christians, are to follow the example of God when He showed mercy to the murderer Paul.

We cannot show mercy and support the death penalty.

Thank you for answering

peace to you
 
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