RD White...
Thank you for your contribution to this thread.
I was going to post some photos of idols of Mary being held "high and lifted up" as she is paraded through the street of many countries world wide, as the people are in a state of extacy in their idolatrous worship of their goddess Mary. I still might.
But you have testified and seen with your own eyes this goddess worship...that is approved of by the Catholic Church.
Thank you. It must be breathtaking to see it in person.
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"Devotion" to Mary...
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Alive in Christ, Aug 14, 2009.
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As for demonstrating in the Bible where the ark was worshiped, I won't try because, like you, I know it isn't in there. However, the ark was venerated by the people of Israel. Yes, venerated, not worshiped. There is a difference. We only worship God but we venerate a lot of things. Go to Washington, D.C. and look at some of the natinal shrines. The Lincoln Memorial and Jefferson Memorial come to mind. These men are venerated. I honor my deceased parents with a picture of them hanging in a prominent place in my house. Another form of veneration. But none of this amounts to worship. -
Secondly the ark is not, was not, and never was equated with God. Can you give me chapter and verse. Demonstrate from Scripture that it was.
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Saluting the flag is a type of veneration, and just as we do not venerate wood and paint, but rather the persons depicted in the Icon, patriotic Americans do not venerate cloth and dye, but rather the country which the flag represents.
Also, the Jews understand the difference between veneration and worship (adoration). A pious Jew kisses the Mezuza on his door post, he kisses his prayer shawl before putting it on, he kisses the tallenin, before he binds them to his forehead, and arm. He kisses the Torah before he reads it in the Synagogue. No doubt, Christ did likewise, when reading the Scriptures in the Synagogue.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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a) those murdering thugs, versus
b) people here who love to dig up and air dirt about Catholics, and stretch the truth to make more such dirt, and invite others to join them,
is the degree. It was the same motive: contempt for Catholics.
If someone was to obsessively do this stuff about Alive In Christ, Steaver, or you, all of you would see what it was about. You would know that no matter how s/he rationalized it or spiritualized it, it was maliciously-motivated.
Unprovoked railing against anyone just for jollies, and soliciting the same by others, is wrong regardless of who it is done against. Acting on grudges is wrong regardless of who it is done against.
Catholics are mistaken people -- but they are people. They ought to be treated like it.
Luke 6:31 "as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise" (KJV) applies to Catholics just it would apply to you folks.
I have shown you all what is wrong with this. You folks seek to justify it and rationalize it and spiritualize it and make it appear to be something good. Not one of you folks' rationalizations, spiritualizations, or sugar-coatings would fool the Lord; He is omniscient and impartial.
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Just the same as when we salute the flag?
When do we ever declare a FLAG to be the KING or QUEEN of Gods heaven, as the Orthodox do here...
When do we ask a FLAG to cure our sickness, and know our wants troubles and suffering, as the Orthodox do here...
The Orthodox in these prayers are atributing to a sinner saved by grace (Mary) atributes and powers that ONLY AMIGHTY GOD posesses.
You Orthodox, as well as the Catholics have...a...GODDESS.
And you prove it by WORSHIPPING your Goddess (a counterfiet "Mary") as any *goddess* would logically be worshipped.
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Honestly DHK, I don't see how you can be so brilliant at times and at other times appear so dense. It's almost like there are two different people posting under "DHK". And I don't appreciate being called dishonest when I have been totally forthright about this. -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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You obsessive Catholic bashers turn a blind eye to yourselves. Contempt for Catholics led those thugs to murder one. Your contempt for Catholics has thus far led you to dig up dirt on Catholics and air it, and stretch the truth to make more such dirt.
The cause of both was the same: contempt for Catholics. Just because you have not indulged your grudge as far as those thugs did does not mean you should not be concerned.
This thread was not motivated by a desire to help Catholics or any people who engage in behavior very similar to idolatry. This is a `I got something juicy against Catholics; let us talk about it' thread.
You people go against the teachings of the Bible with your actions against Catholics.
Catholics have their issues. You people who want to vent your grudges and bash Catholics have your issues.
When you people actually want to help Catholics, rather than vent your grudges, let me know. These sorts of threads, with their obvious grudge-motivated nature, alienate Catholics and make them less-inclined to heed what Bible-centered Christians have to say. When you want to set aside your grudges to help unsaved Catholics, I will be happy to try to assist you.
This thread is not about `exposing idolatry'; it is about `I got something juicy against Catholics; let us talk about all the bad things we can say about Catholics.'
Paralleling your alleged sentiment, if I do not try to bring to your attention the evil you have joined into, I would be negligent.
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