It doesn't sound to me like you know Christ.
Did Jesus Die On Your Cross?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by PreacherOfTruth, Aug 26, 2013.
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Scriptures state, "Absent from the body, present with the Lord."
Paul states the condition of the believer in this present world in these terms:1Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. 3For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.See, Paul considered himself already "raised up with Christ."
Btw, if you move over the numbers, you can click on them to see in context what Paul stated. The context relates directly to the point I think you are attempting to make. -
Paul said a lot of nonsense. Easy to prove it was nonsense. Would you like to debate it? I will with the greatest of ease prove it to be so.
Like saying you were crusified with jesus.
That is nonsense.
No one was crucified with Jesus but the 2 thieves and they were on their own cross. -
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Woe up there, the hoss you are jumpin upon isn't yours to ride.
You seem to be equating the "bearing of the cross" with some human attribute that would guarantee assurance of salvation.
Not so.
Rather, Christ is showing how that only those who are willing to follow Christ are worthy of Christ. Just as Christ willing carried (until physically unable) the cross because that was His Father's will, the believer must be willing to follow the will of Christ.
37“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39“He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.Christ didn't speak of the cross as something that was to be on some checklist, but an attitude of service of follow - ship and fellowship.
When I was still in my youth, the missionaries in Quito, Ecuador were slaughtered. They followed Christ to the end of their life. Unfortunately, not all believers get to wear the martyrs' crown.
Follow-ship is what is important - just as Christ followed the Father's will, so the believer follows the will of God. That is what Christ was attending, and which I am beginning to question if you actually comprehend. -
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Jesus was offered up as a sacrifice to God. If anyone was crucified with Jesus on his cross then he could not have been the Lamb of God.
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No one was crucified with Christ. Jesus did not take no ones place on the cross but his own. To destroy the works of the devil. You have to follow Jesus to God. And that is through the cross. Your own cross. You have to offer up your self as a living sacrifice just like Jesus did. On your own cross. All this I have said is in the bible. Jesus said what I have stated here.
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I don't know how long you plan on being part of the BB.
But the rules have a part about you being in no position to declare the salvation or lack thereof on another member.
Perhaps you should go back and edit some of your responses to not reflect this judgment. -
25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”Do you believe what Jesus said to Martha applies to all believers?
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You guys need to quit feeding that thing.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Time to pull the plug on both of them. -
Sounds like you have been listening to the heresies of Benny Hinn too long. -
I will debate you. And we will see who is who. -
Show me where Jesus said anything other than his blood was for the remission of sins.
Post them verses right here where Jesus said. -
He was the just. We are the unjust. He took our place dying for the unjust that he might bring us to God. -
Why do you bother with trolls? Even the Cal/Arm debates are better! Let's do that! :tongue3:
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Peter is not the messiah.
In fact Peter denied the messiah.
True or false? -
Show me where in the bible, Jesus said he took your place or anyone's place on the cross.
Show me where Jesus said anything other than his blood was for the remission of sins.
Post them verses right here where Jesus said.
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