Did You See This @ FoxNews.com?

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  1. Baptist in Richmond Active Member

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    NO, and I do not recall ever saying that you did, Johnv. If you can show me where I did say that, I will gladly retract that statement.

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  2. KenH Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I think that DiLorenzo makes a valid point as the debate is better described as being between centralists and decentralists since nowadays people such as George W. Bush can be described as big government conservatives. Therefore, simply calling oneself a conservative does not indicate whether one believes that the government that governs best governs least.
     
  3. JGrubbs New Member

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    I assume you will disagree with me again, but I think Thomas J. DiLorenzo is a great author and historian! I have one of his books recommended on my blog.
     
  4. Magnetic Poles New Member

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    Not weighing in on funding CPB/PBS/NPR, as I have mixed feelings on that issue. However, I am just wondering Ken . . . How is Congress appropriating funds for this any more unconstitutional than them voting funds for highways or any other public benefit?
     
  5. Baptist in Richmond Active Member

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    Yes, I disagree with you, but you are my brother in Christ, and I still love you!!
     
  6. KenH Well-Known Member

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    The powers that the federal government has are in the U.S. constitution. There is nothing there that gives the federal government the power to take my money and give it to PBS. As far as roads, Article 1, Section 8 does include "To establish post offices and post roads".
     
  7. Baptist in Richmond Active Member

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    Wow, I am now convinced.
    Let's also stop funding public schools as well.
     
  8. KenH Well-Known Member

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    On a federal level, you betcha, BiR.
     
  9. Magnetic Poles New Member

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    Our representatives act constitutionally when they vote on our behalf to appropriate funding, unless the SCOTUS rules on a legitimate case and finds such spending unconstitutional. Your opinion may be that it is not constitutional, but the fact is, that ain't so.
     
  10. KenH Well-Known Member

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    You mean the SCOTUS that made up the idea, I mean ruled, that the U.S. constitution contains a right to an abortion? That SCOTUS?
     
  11. Magnetic Poles New Member

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    That'd be the one!
     
  12. Baptist in Richmond Active Member

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    Wow, exactly who was it that increased federal funding to schools?
     
  13. KenH Well-Known Member

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    George W. Bush and a majority of the U.S. Congress - centralists.
     
  14. Magnetic Poles New Member

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    Ken has a new word of the day. Hahaha.
     
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    That may be, but Ken's kinder than I am. I call them socialists. :D
     
  16. KenH Well-Known Member

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    And a very accurate new word, if I say so myself. ;)
     
  17. JGrubbs New Member

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    I agree with LE, it's a form os socialism!
     
  18. JGrubbs New Member

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    Because the federal government has absolutely no jurisdiction concerning the education of our children, the United States Department of Education should be abolished; all federal legislation related to education should be repealed. No federal laws subsidizing or regulating the education of children should be enacted. Under no circumstances should the federal government be involved in national teacher certification, educational curricula, textbook selection, learning standards, comprehensive sex education, psychological and psychiatric research testing programs, and personnel.
     
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    In that case so are schools, sewers, highways, county fairs, and lots of other things. Socialism does not equal Communism.
     
  20. KenH Well-Known Member

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    We have been talking about the federal government's powers, MP. State constitutions may give governments the power to do these things.

    We really need to get away from the idea in this country that only the federal government can promote and fund government programs. The original idea was that each State was to be a republic and the federal government would basically defend the borders, arbitrate between the States, and oversee a united foreign policy. The States would be free to spend their taxpayers' money as their own constitutions allowed.