Do Calvinists Affirm Free Will then?

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  1. Van Well-Known Member
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    There is no "they were not truly seeking God," because some of them found God. All these scripture does not mean what it says shows a willingness to deny God's word.
     
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    You are free to talk yourself out of what Paul tells us. You asked for scripture. I gave you scripture.
     
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    You have added to those verses in order to create a teaching not found in the text.
    The text tells me what it tells me. It doesn't tell me what you are claiming. I trust God over you.
     
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    It is amazing how absurdity is used to defend false biblical doctrine.
    Calvinism - nobody ever at any time seeks God
    Jesus many seek the narrow gate.
     
  5. Van Well-Known Member
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    Here is the classic Calvinist defense, deny actual Calvinist doctrine. Pathetic.
    If you believe Jesus, and that many seek the narrow path, you cannot believe no one ever at any time seeks God. The "T" of Calvinism is unbiblical nonsense.
     
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    In that passage, where do we find "and some found God"? Please quote this for us.
     
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    What does the text say? I will sit back and let the text speak.

    Romans 3:10-18

    As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
     
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    It is amazing how absurdity is used to defend false biblical doctrine.

    Vanism - only those who are in sin do not seek.

    God:
    As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
    ~ Romans 3:10-18
     
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    Nope, just agreeing with scriptures that none seek after God!
     
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    Paul was inspired, so trust his viewpoint on this over one held by Van!
     
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    The ONLY lost sinners that will ever seek after the Lord would be those whom the father draws to Jesus to get saved!
     
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    Just WHO are those seeking it?
     
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    Strawman
     
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    Right, because it couldn't be that you do not actually know/understand the Reformed position.....
     
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    On and on with complete rubbish. Can you image anyone denying "few are those who find the narrow gate."
     
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    Mindless regularization of a passage that disproves Calvinism and support no one seeks God all the time.
     
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    On and on, posting a complete denial that many seek the narrow gate. They have no shame.
     
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    Complete absurdity, many seek the narrow gate is claimed to mean no one seeks the narrow gate. Calvinism requires feigned stupidity.
     
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    Again the repeat of false doctrine, no verse says or suggests folks do not seek God unless drawn. You have to be drawn in order to "come to Me." They refer to "A" and then claim they have addressed "B." Complete rubbish.
    The many who seek the narrow gate would include those drawn by greed rather than love.
     
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    More strawman. Scarecrow anyone?