Paul explicitly tells us the opposite!
Phil. 3:2. Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision;
3. for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
4. although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more:
5. circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee;
6. as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. (NASB, 1995)
Please notice these words in v. 6, “as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.” When Paul became saved, did not forget that he had kept the Law virtually perfectly—but he still was not without sin and he needed to be saved. He also knew that some, but not many, other Jews had an excellent testimony regarding their keeping the Law, but he was not about to let them slip through the cracks. Therefore he had written earlier in his Epistle to the Romans,
Rom. 5:12. Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—
13. for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. (NASB, 1995)
The doctrine of original sin! Even had such Jews kept the Law perfectly—they had sinned in Adam! Therefore, they were sinners in need of salvation by grace through faith.
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Romans 5 is not teaching guilt by association. Paul already dealt with personal guilt in Romans 1 thru 4 - because each has turned his own way
Read Romans 5:1-10
He's moved on to those who have been justified, those who have received the Spirit, those who exult in tribulation and look forward to a resurrected body
Then compare that to the second half of Romans 8, which is a continuation of the same. In a nutshell, chapters 6 & 7 are a long string of parenthetical thought -
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1 Cor. 10:13. No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. (NASB, 1995)
Jesus did not tell us to try to sin less than 100 times a day; Jesus commanded us,
Matthew 5:48. Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. (NRSV)
Jesus set the bar very high, and I do not believe that we should attempt to yank it down.
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Rom. 7:4. Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. (NASB, 1995) -
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Antinomianism should NOT be tolerated on here.
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Agreed!! Maybe God can use me to point him/her to Christ. You know? The One devout Jews deny as their Messiah. You can not love God and deny/hate Christ. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one can come to the Father except by Him[John 14:6].
He is also the Door unto the sheep pen, too[John 10].
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9What then? Are we Jewsa any better off?b No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;
11 no one understands;
no one seeks for God.
12All have turned aside; together they have become worthless;
no one does good,
not even one.”
13“Their throat is an open grave;
they use their tongues to deceive.”
“The venom of asps is under their lips.”
14 “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.”
15“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 in their paths are ruin and misery,
17and the way of peace they have not known.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
19Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. 20For by works of the law no human beingc will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. -
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Bro. CBTS:
The devout Jew denies Christ came in the flesh as the Messiah. John addressed this here:
On Denying the Incarnation
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."[1 John 4:1-3]
This is descriptive of the devout Jews. They deny Jesus came in the flesh as their Messiah. They accuse Him of being a rabble rouser, not Messiah. They have a spirit of anti-Christ, and yet you claim they love God? -
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Another thing...Jews will not eat pork. God cleansed it and told Peter anything He has cleansed, do not call it impure. And yet they love God? o_O
If that is love, I would sure hate to see hatred. -
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Craigbythesea,
he thought by external obedience that he was okay, until God saved him and he saw his internal corruption.He "thought he kept the law, but learned he did not...So here he is correcting others who thought by keeping the externals they would be okay.
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When Jesus came into the world, He was not what the writers of the books of the Old Testament had portrayed Him to be—so of course most of the Jews did not accept Him as the Messiah. I know that this does not sound write to some of my readers because they have studied the Old Testament using translations of the Hebrew that were translated from a Christian rather than a Jewish perspective and that have a Messianic spin on it (that is, the translations interpret the Messianic prophesies from the viewpoint of their New Testament fulfillment). However, the Old Testament was not written by Christians; it was written by Jews for a Jewish audience and it should be translated as that Jewish audience would have understood it without the Messianic spin. The Revised Standard Version and the New Revised Standard Version are such translations. Read the “Messianic” portions of the Old Testament in these translations and you will get some idea why most of the first century Jews took Jesus to be a deceiver and a false prophet rather than the Son of God—as He truly is. -
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Rom. 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. (NASB, 1995)
Please notice the words “to everyone.” Please quote from the Bible where it says that anyone heard, read, or otherwise received the gospel before Jesus preached it. -
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The Bible is composed of two distinct parts—the Old Testament (διαθήκη) and the New Testament (διαθήκη). The Old Testament (διαθήκη) concerns primarily the Covenant (διαθήκη) of Law; the New Testament (διαθήκη) concerns primarily the far better Covenant (διαθήκη) of Grace.
Heb. 8:6. But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises. (NASB, 1995)
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