I did this survey a while back and am doing it again with some different choices.
The question is:
If I don't want you to consider me apostate, which of the following doctrines must I agree with.
Here are some links that may help with some defintions:
Wikipedia : Five Solas
Wikipedia : Five Points of Calvinism
Wikipedia : Baptist
Doctrines required not to be apostate
Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by Gold Dragon, Mar 25, 2006.
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
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Well GoldD, between you and me, one of us must be an apostate.
I misread the first question; thinking that it asked if one needed to be a Baptist in order not to be apostate. (NOT)
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Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
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Here's another quiz (off-site) about heresies called:
LINK: ARE YOU A HERETIC?
Rob -
Four people think if you are not Baptist, you are apostate and 2 think if you don't believe in separation of church and state, you are apostate???? :confused: :eek:
You've got to be kidding! Who said that - please explain! :rolleyes:
There are areas between apostate and being saved. I only checked 10 things for salvation. There some that are problematic but not apostate, and many that believers can disagree on but have nothing to do with salvation or apostasy (such as endtime scenarios and drinking). -
Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
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Ed -
Ed </font>[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, almost forgot. The questions are intended to find out , not whether you are a heretic, but whether you are "Calcedon compliant", or touch on some other variations, and proport to assume 'how much'. Some of the questions are already 'leading' by the specific wording, as well.
Ed -
I don't see how the poll determines one is apostate or not,,,duh!!!
I was waiting for the huge blinking sign saying "apostate,,apostate,,apostate..." Some of the questions were just plain stupid!
Cheers,
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Still, we've got some people saying some strange things make one apostate. -
Gold Dragon Well-Known Member
I picked 9 choices which probably overlapped with your 10. Although I'm having second thoughts about 3 of the nine choices I made as I consider whether I would truly call someone apostate if they didn't believe them. -
I wavered on one or two myself because many are tied together. I chose rejection of belief in the miracles of Christ as making someone apostate because that would mean they don't believe that the miracles were a sign to show Jesus as the Messiah and maybe that he was not the Messiah.
Rejecting the virgin birth, miracles of Christ, and some other things would imply a rejection of the Bible as God's word as well. I did choose rejection of the virgin birth as making one apostate because it is so tied into who Jesus is.
I find it an intriguing contrast that so many miraculous births in the OT were to women who were seemingly barren (like Hannah) or older (like Sarah), but Jesus was born to a young virgin. In fact, this struck me for the first time a couple of weeks or so before I became a believer in late 1990 when I heard a lecture by an expert on the OT. It did not lead me to belief right then but became part of the way God was drawing me to his truth that culminated shortly before Christmas into faith in Christ.
There seems to me to be a parallel also with Jesus being laid in a tomb never before used. He was born to a woman who was chaste and laid in a new, unused tomb after the crucifixion. -
BTW The test said that I am not a heretic.
I never thought I was but i wonder who is so high and mighty that they can determine who is and who is not.
I just try to follow trhe scriptures.
The first fed flag I have about someone being a heretic is that they are quick to call everyone that disagrees with them a heretic.