This is a subject that often comes up and one that I usually don't venture into with new Christians?
We have often heard it said to "to hate the sin but not the sinner".
Is it Biblical? Can we BIBLICALLY say that God does not hate the sinner?
Does God HATE the Sinner?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Zaac, Jun 26, 2013.
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There are several other passages in psalms like this...It seems clear that God hates sinners...and also loves them, as many other passages attest.
If God says he hates workers of iniquity, I believe him. If God says he loves sinners, I believe him.
Since He clearly and repeatedly says both, I believe both. -
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This article ...
http://www.mercifultruth.com/doesgodhate.html
... says it much better than I can, but it is way too long to post here. Therefore, please click and prayerfully read through it. It is an excellent treatise on just how misunderstood God's "hatred" is.
Suffice to say, if you believe God hates sinners, you don't understand God very well. God bless. -
God is love therefore He must hate. If you love that which is right, true and good, you must hate that which is against it. The sin isn't against him, The people committing the sin are.
People , not sin, will be tossed into an eternal lake of fire.
Psalm 5:5 refutes the notion of loving the sinner and hating the sin as it speaks directly to God hating ALL who do iniquity. Not the iniquity, but the ALL who do the iniquity.
The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity.
Again, I think our first response is to confuse God's righteous hatred with the type of hatred that our flesh knows. But the response of a HOLY God is different than the way our flesh responds. -
Romans 5, NASB
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
If He hates the sinner, why did He die for the sinner? Did He, in each of our own cases, suddenly (and irrationally, I might add) decide not to hate us? Or is it possible that compared to His love, His displeasure looks like hate?
God hated Esau, right? Are you sure? So why is it that, after 20 years away from his brother Esau, part of Jacob's blessing was to have the opportunity to bow seven times at his brother's feet?
Isaiah 55
8 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD.
9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. -
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The Archangel Well-Known Member
David Platt: God hates the sin and the sinner...and loves the sinner
http://youtu.be/mqTWLut6lcg
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His hatred was exacted against HIS SON because of OUR sin. And if taking on our sin caused God to hate His SON to death, why would He not hate the sinner and the sin? -
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But Scripture says what it says. -
His Righteous Judgement (NOT HATRED)was upon his Son because of Adam's Sin friend--through 1 man (Adam) sin entered and Death by sin--ALL were made sinners by this 1 man(Adam).
Righteous Judgement and Hatred are NOT the same.
I am not saying that we didn't have sins or do not sin--I am saying what the scriptures teach that it was Adam's Sin that was paid for that plunged all mankind into sin--therefore our sins are paid for.
Did God kill David's baby (because of david's sin)because God HATED David ?
NO--David was a man after God's own heart--God loved David.
BUT God also Judges mankind in Righteousness---Does God do this because he HATES his own creation ????The whole purpose of God's judgement upon mankind is that he might correct his creation that he LOVES--and this appears to man as hatred the way man thinks of hatred.\ -
Jesus stood in the place of sinners. -
the Father "turned his back" on Christ due to the sins of the world? -
Carm has a good right up about it too.
http://carm.org/questions/about-jesus/why-did-jesus-cry-out-my-god-my-god-why-have-you-forsaken-me
just my few pennies. -
righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Why I Won't Be Sucked Into This Argument!
....I have found that when Zaac posts a question, he has a hidden agenda, and all too often we never find out what that agenda is???
I dearly love Zaac and his propensity for the love of the Kingdom towards all mankind, but - and you know with my statement, there's going to be a "but" - but we see things differently, and this is one of those areas where he sees the field from the south, and I see it from the north.
There is one thing that I am sure of, we'll both enjoy the plush sensation of the green grass of that field under our feet when we cross over from this mere mortal life to eternal life with God! :thumbs: -
Baptist JG, it is my conviction that Jesus is quoting Psalm 22....which is a "psalm of victory". I am not convinced at ALL that God the Father was "turning his back" on God the Son.
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